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^Very interesting Thanks for posting! Has there been any preliminary drawings for the proposed new exit/onramp?

"I noticed a couple of new camera along Vine, at 13th and 14th street. Nice to see if you ask me. I assume they are police cameras. They are mounted on large arms on the tops of the buildings." "Your observations are accurate. Police department mounted the cameras. These cameras transmit real time and are capable of zooming in/out the distance of a few blocks. Camera at 13th & Vine is mounted on the buddy's place building, 1300 Vine, owned by Over-the-Rhine Community Housing. They allowed the Police Dept to do so. The camera near 15th & Vine is also mounted on a building owned by OTRCH - 1511 Vine Street. These cameras are $25,000 a pop and although I don't have the specific details in front of me (I learned all of this at one of the public Washington Park Safety Sector meetings + took notes) I do know there are several other new cameras up in OTR as well, North of Liberty." This would be a great idea for this area aswell. Read more: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16431.2070.html#ixzz1loUisz2x

These areas of New York have far greater amounts of residential space than does the CBD. Yes OTR has lots, but the CBD does not. If you want to make the CBD self-supporting in terms of all the retail currently there, and the retail desired (i.e. grocery store, movie theater, clothing shops), then you are going to need a lot more residential space. Converting historic office buildings would go a long way, but it won't get you all the way there. With that said, I'm not advocating a "forest of 16-floor housing blocks." What I'm advocating is the thoughtful incorporation of a few high-rise residential towers. These towers will supply a large amount of new residents and also introduce a new housing product to downtown. Believe it or not, not everyone has the desire to live in a restored 19th century building. I really think AFFORDABLE( 100k to 300K on the Higher side) condos in the CBD would be great too with reasonable HOA fees ($100 to $250 a month). A lot of people don't like or want to rent and would like to own but can't afford these 600K+ units and $500 to $1,000 HOA fees.

"Dunnhumby would own its offices. Non-profit developer Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation (3CDC) would own and operate the rest. " -Enquirer. That does NOT say Dunnhumby owns the entire building and that 3CDC & the City (Who owns the land and will likely be providing major financing) would have no say. It's Definitley not a certainty that there will be residential, but it's not solely Dunnhumby's decision at all. DunnhumbyUSA is in the final stages of dealmaking to build 250,000 square feet of offices above a parking and retail structure. Dunnhumby would own its offices. Non-profit developer Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation (3CDC) would own and operate the rest. - the entire Enquirer quote key words: "250,000 square feet of offices above a parking and retail structure" and "3CDC would own and operate the rest" the rest being the "parking and retail structure" it does not say: "parking, retail, and the additional floors of residential" I am just going by the facts, i'm not trying to say someone is wrong or there is no chance of residential. Just that stating it has been "confirmed" that there will be residential, is false or to state "3CDC is going to be the developer, so it'll be up to them" is also false. Because it is not up to 3CDC, DunnHumby is the customer to 3CDC not the other way around. Sure 3CDC will provide input, suggestions, and ideas but in the end DunnHumby will get what they want, not what 3CDC wants soley because they are the "developer".

I am going to point back to the facts, where it has been stated that DunnHumby will own their building and 3CDC will own the garage and any retail surrounding the structure, anything beyond that is speculation. But plans can change. I just don’t see DunnHumby wanting to be sandwiched between floors or not being the main focal point of the building. 3CDC can be the developer all they want, with no DunnHumby there is no project, therefore it is not up to 3CDC, so if DunnHumby does not approve the plans, the project will not go forward.

^^ It is not confirmed that there WOULD be residential included in the plan. It cleary states that it COULD be part of the plan. The city can suggest whatever they want, but it is up the the owner of the building (DunnhumbyUSA). I just want to make sure the facts as of now are clear.

Does Gilbert count? Race Refrgerator, selling used and maybe new refrgerators.

Just to clarify the article does NOT say 1200 spaces for the winning project. That was the deal the county put together for the Banks proposal. Also as noted Dunnhumny will own their building and 3CDC will own the rest.

the enquirer is reporting the plan calls for 4 to 5 floors, and show the foot print of the building taking up the whole parking lot. Yes, i will wait for more details but i had a feeling this is what they were planning as they stated they really like the tall ceilings and big wide open spaces as that is their "culture". Doesn't fit the mold of a taller building. I would think they would want the building to be tall so their signage could be seen from all angles of the city. But we will see.

I understand what you are saying. But you have two choices, don't tare any down and they ALL will be gone or tare down a few to save more. Same goes for OTR.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120204/NEWS/302100005/The-renaissance-Walnut-Hills?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE Great article posted on cincinnati.com. It would be great to see Walnut Hills turn around and save so many great buildings.

Has there been an updates on this project?