Yves Behar

There is definitely not an over saturation of bars. They are usually packed, and I believe the rumor mill has been saying Neon's and maybe another could possibly close soon. Just to add, I still think that the neighborhood could use a pedestrian only street with areas for dining like there are in Europe. Not sure how this would add to the diversity of offerings but still, I feel it's something that would benefit a lot of people.

Any news on the updates to Nippert for FCC?

It may be closer geographically to Mt. Adams but it's a lot easier toget to WH from there by going straight up Gilbert that it feels a bit more attached to WH than Mt. Adams to me. Also it's at the bottom of the hill almost, which is like not a "Mount" at all, but perhaps more of a "Hill" but I could just be getting pedantic.

At least yer polite about it. WRONG!

A lot of interesting things going on in that packet.

Hmm, that list of grievances is pretty interesting, and I can't help but feel that some of those arguments are somewhat hollow when this council doesn't seem to make much of a stir about a lot of other similarly incentivised projects. Just seems to be the ones that are a larger scale like Grammar's and this one at Liberty, and the ones that make use of more economical material choices. I feel like some of these reasons are just tacked on to the deep down concern that this will effect the appearance of the neighborhood negatively. I haven't heard anything about the proposed single family homes that I believe are on Elm and take up a large footprint with about 5 units total. Those are a true affront to the affordability of the area. But alas, not a peep about that project.

I work a block away and drive by that building a lot and I had no idea that much of anything was going on. I knew it was being renovated but it's been awfully quiet over here.

yeah it sucks.

That guy is pathetic. Sure the process isn't great and definitely could be reviewed, but I just feel like this guy is complaining cause he didn't get to do things his way, when at the same time I've seen many people doing what he attempted all over Northside. That said tho the zoning isn't very urban friendly.

Camp Washington is where most are going. Same for a lot of the prostitutes and homeless forced from from OTR. After that I see a lot of peole going to Spring Grove Village.

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Northside-Cincinnati-OH.html

No, it's pretty diverse now.

Northside is on the fast track to being white washed and gentrified.

I posted about it higher up in the thread.

That's pretty sad man.

Seems that many of the new OTR residents would love to keep it an island. Or perhaps just a colony with minimum income requirements.

It's sad to think that before the bridge, those over 75 just stayed home and did nothing. Tragic really. Honestly let's just cut to the chase here, it's Hannaford's fault. I can't believe he didn't have the foresight to just build a parking garage in Music Hall, then this whole thing wouldn't be an issue.

Is there a basement? Could the Washington Park garage have an entrance into the basement somehow?

Damn!!

Ugh, how annoying. What does this mean for the project?

Wait a minute here, that's a facade?!?! :wink:

^ I just threw up in my mouth a bit...

Besides the three most northern blocks which streets are intact? From what I see there is a lot of housing left but not a lot of continuity or density when compared to what was once there. Lot's of open lots / parking lots / entire sides of streets completely bulldozed.

^ Perhaps they are an OTR property owner. Seems everyone who is would just love values to keep going up. I have to be honest I get a little jealous of those who were able to get in on the ground floor. When I moved here 10 years ago I was enthralled by OTR even in its state then. I remember going into buildings and talking to agents about how I could be involved. Unfortunately I was 18, in school and had no credit or savings. Buildings I toured in 07 that were on the market for $15,000 to $30,000 then, and the same shells fetch well into the quarter million dollar range now. It's sad because even now that I have credit and some savings, I'm completely priced out. This shouldn't be the case for a mixed income community, so in my opinion we've already gone a bit too far.

I think if there could be some more retail on Central in Brighton then the northern part of the neighborhood would have a lot more leverage for attracting residents. Things like the slaughterhouse don't really help make it a desirable place to have a home or business. Also the massive park, which is nice enough, and the size of Bank street disconnect this little part of the neighborhood from the residential portions. Along with Central PKWY to the north, Brighton is sort of isolated and a driving destination more than a walking one for the locals. It's a shame that the Baymiller pedestrian bridge was torn down and not replaced, that again could have been a great way to connect Brighton to more residential areas. Perhaps someday these places can unify again, and have more of an influence as a whole, rather than separate parts that can't help each other. I guess what I'm saying is that the West End is residential, and though close to OTR, would significantly benefit from having a strong business district providing jobs for residence and incentivising people to invest and stay for a long time. Right now I feel Lynn and Liberty are not well suited to be the heart of the neighborhood, since those streets were designed for high traffic flow and not walkability.