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Totally agreed. Cincinnati will be able to claim its streetcar here soon, and that may be more TOD-oriented than Cleveland's Rapid system. However I envision a number of upgrades in coming years to the Rapid that will foster a lot more TOD.

Hey all. I may be moving down to Akron for a new job, and I'm past my lease in Lakewood so just going month to month on that, which gives me a while to evaluate my options as long as I can put up with a commute that's only somewhat arduous. Are there any areas in Akron reminiscent of Lakewood or Cleveland Heights? Or what about a Tremont-like neighorhood?

I figured you'd love this thread, KJP! I usually take the Rapid to get to UC and I just thought it looked better with greenery. I'm in and out of that and the 120 station a lot...120 more so, but my phone is ALWAYS dead after a long day of engagements or too low battery to take a photo of the really cool environs around the 120 station.

Oneof my favorite things about Cleveland is a very comprehensive network of rail-based rapid transit and modern BRT lines. I'm personally not a big fan of the BRT, but it has been integral to the impressive transformation of the Euclid Avenue Corridor which has seen over $4 billion of reinvestment in the last five years including 4,500 new residential infill units. I thought I'd do a diverse photo set of Cleveland life that is sewn together as a series of destinations along the Rapid system. Starting in Shaker Heights, one of the nation's best remaining example of a historic streetcar suburb. Modern TOD in the Shaker Towne Center Stairs going down to the LRT, with condos in the background Shaker Heights City Hall LRT at Lee and Van Aken Boulevard Lee Road in Shaker Heights Flats East Bank TOD along the Waterfront Line Taking the Rapid to the Browns game! Inside the Tower City terminal, where the Red, Blue, Green, Waterfront, and Health lines converge Healthline BRT route Downtown trollies Triskett station in Lakewood - my neighborhood Rapid stop W. 25th - Ohio City Rapid station The incredible Westside Market in Ohio City Public Square, where all the city bus routes converge Healthline stop in Playhouse Square Healthline stop near E. 4th Sayonara University Circle Rapid stop E.120 will be replaced with this $17.5 million station on Mayfield Road in Little Italy Cedar Road's morning backup underneath the University Circle station University Circle peaking through the foliage Healthline along Euclid Avenue in University Circle Euclid Avenue in University Circle.. phase 1 of the Uptown UARC development Phase 2 is breaking ground in January Red Line coming into Tower City Flats West Bank redevelopment on the other side of the Detroit-Superior bridge Waterfront Line in the Flats Lolly the Trolley! Healthline night lights in Playhouse Square W. 117 and Madison Rapid station Walking out of Tower City Healthline whips around Public Square to start its journey from in front of Tower City all the way down Euclid

So does this McGreevy guy have a reputation for being..."free and brave?" aka Wingbat

Link?

Anyone know how well the temple stood up? It's looks alright

I've heard a lot of design criticism, but I actually LOVE the design. First of all it's in keeping with the existing motif, second of all it's a significant step up toward a major intersection, and I absolutely love the way that the architects bend the same proportion around the glass curtain wall. Very slick, very bold.

Honey, AS is a strip mall built, like cracker park and legacy village, to EMULATE an urban experience. It's crap. Instead of bringing business to Peachtree, or trying to fix Underground ATL, they've decided to let them further deteriorate. Also just so were clear not all the buildings shown in that picture are apart of AS, they are adjacent properties. Also three of those building are half empty and the poor quality housing built in AS wont last long. People in Atanta even know the housing is crap. It's been public panned in the papers. My Shaker Square was built to last, will any of these "lifestyle centers" be around 90 years after construction? I agree on Legacy, but I disagree on Crocker. I also can't tell if your argument is on urban design or construction durability. Or if Atlantic Station looked at yo man the wrong way. They should have brought back the Underground Atlanta? First of all, Five Points is bombed out, second of all underground development is great urban design...not to mention the developers didn't do anything to Underground to make it go downhill, it just did on its own. As for Peachtree, there is no available land on Peachtree for a development the size of Atlantic Station (especially with in IKEA) and Peachtree already has an incredible amount of retail including Lennox Square. There's no way that IKEA would pay the premium on land for Buckhead, so it's Atlantic Station in brownfield redevelopment or outside the Perimeter. You're talking to a southerner here, and I know my Atlanta new urbanist developments. And please, how is this a strip mall? It's just in Westlake, not Cleveland. That's all there is to this.

Soooo.... Ontario to Gateway? edit: ahh darn, CO beat me to it.. never let a good Steelyard Commons bashing moment go to waste! :whip:

I love this, and you're right, better integration of Browns Stadium, the real heart and soul of the city, would be a huge hit. Only downside - new stadium costs still boggle my mind.

Been to Atlantic Station. It's a very similar site to Steelyard Commons. Except Atlanta stopped doing strip malls for stuff like this: The "station" in the name is admittedly a bit misleading, but the development provides really good shuttle service to the nearby MARTA station. Runs like every 5 minutes or something. I don't see what is wrong with the development. Admittedly haven't been as far south in Arlington as Clarendon, but I already know I don't like Rosslyn because it's too heavy on towers and office buildings and very little street scene. I imagine Clarendon to be a newer, improved version, but I could be wrong. Retail couldn't be awful for that though. I think if your an urbanist who prides yourself on beating up new-urbanism you're probably spending more effort tilting on windmills than actually helping anything.

Universities are cash-flooded businesses (as long as they aren't public regionally-based schools). I know I would cringe at seeing my high school derided this way, but I think it's realistic that most folks aren't "good alumni" for their high schools. I myself hated high school and haven't gone to any of the reunions, etc..

I love me some Geauga County. Awesome pics MayDay Also love the view near Quay 55. Different..

Can you share more info? Links? Or is this just the continuing series of Circle In The City lunchtime concerts. Precisely

Looks like next week it will be open for a lunch event

How is it garbage? Especially Atlantic Station, which is just five blocks off the Downtown Connector, and Clarendon Garbage which is TOD?? Should all cities like more like Hough or something?

What is more updated? It looks the same as the one in the presentation. They populated the sidewalk with more rendering people

It should go all glass. Like Tulsa's City Hall, also known as the Borg Cube

Yeah, but you'd have to compare it to something located on Madison Avenue or in Nob Hill in SF. University Circle is Cleveland's has the highest intensity of jobs, entertainment amenities, and cultural attractions of anywhere in the region, and you're going to pay to live in that neighborhood. On a side note, from the PD article: http://mobile.cleveland.com/advcleve/db_268982/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=o8G5LYoH&full=true#display What does being free and brave have to do with urban housing? This is the most moronic quote I have ever seen in my life.

You might be right.

I agree that Crocker Park is one of the best lifestyle centers I've ever seen. Structured parking (mostly), grocery store, critical mass of housing, interactive highly-programmed green space, iconic features like the roundabout, minimal transit integration, and so on. It's not the best I've ever seen. That would have to be Mockingbird Station, an edgier lifestyle center built up around Dallas's DART Red Line. I can't really begin with how much I dislike Legacy Village. Cedar is a great corridor, and its greatness could extend a lot further east than it already does if only Legacy Village weren't recessed allll the way behind the parking. Eton interacts more with Chagrin, but it's nothing more than an elaborate strip mall.

On a side note, I was browsing through old threads recently and came across this really cool design competition promoting "ingenuity" around adaptive reuse of the Breuer Tower. I liked this rendering because it illustrates how cool the building's waffle-grid windows look illuminated: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,13642.0.html

I rather like the eastern facade on the tower for some reason. It's a really interesting, brutalist piece of architecture... I usually don't care for brutalism like most, but it's not all bad. Really interesting discussion evolving on the City Beautiful/Save Lower Prospect Avenue fb page. The proposed County building is pretty bad and the skywalk is hideous. Praise the deal, but geez, couldn't the County's facility be a little less dreck...

RTA owns Public Square. Unofficially. And ColDayMan, I believe that architectural style is called "lifestyle center"..for lack of a specific motif or style. ;)