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It sounds like NOACA will be just as big an impediment as ODOT. The two additional options NOACA wants Cleveland to study would leave the existing Shoreway in tact. And worse under the guise of protecting pedestrians and cyclists on Lakeside. That stretch of Lakeside between W.3th and E.9th is a ghost town most of the day. It could easily accommodate the trivial extra traffic from people that drive across downtown now on the Shoreway.

The Clinic sure loves them some grassy lawns.

The biggest impediment may be ODOT, and city leaders incapable of opposing them. I will give the new administration the benefit of doubt until the project takes shape. This can't be dumbed down like the west shoreway project.

Intel probably saw what happened with AMD after they spun off their fab business into GlobalFoundries. AMD tied themselves to GF in order to make it a "viable" new company. The exclusivity contract became an anchor around their neck. They somewhat recently started outsourcing to TSMC for their high end products, which has made them competitive again. If Intel split who'd make their high end chips? This new company which is still behind, or are they fighting for fab space at TSMC like the rest of the world? It's definitely a gamble.

Just build the bike lanes at street level and use the extra money on 3 other projects. Sidewalk level lanes are unnecessary and expensive. This project could have been done years ago cheaper and just as effective for cyclists.

I agree with most of that. Cleveland lacks the developable land near the core and comparable colleges for a project of this scale. Most of the vacant land in a 25 mile radius is either brownfield or parkland. Some though sounds a bit like sour grapes. These aren't typical manufacturing jobs. They are better paying and require specialized skills. And it's not like we are winning a bunch of small scale manufacturing projects either. Most of what's being built is low density and low pay warehousing.

What do you mean unprepared? It's not like the concept was sprung on them after the fact. Apartments over a new library branch was a condition of transferring the current MLK branch property to them. The design competition for the new branch was years ago. https://www.cleveland.com/architecture/2018/06/so-il_kurtz_wins_competition_t.html It's more likely Midwest Development Partners is slow walking the Library Lofts because they put all their eggs in The Artisan. Not many developers have the financing to build two large projects at the same time.

Didn't a tax levy recently pass specifically for library renovation and new construction? The funding for this branch would come from that pot.

Here is the architect's page with a couple pictures and site plan. Looks good. http://www.robertmaschke.com/projects/casa-dangolo/

Probably not a surprise at this point, but GIS has been updated with the property transfer. Guess that makes it official-er.

How was it? We're going Sunday.

Hard to tell what would have happened over the years. A project this size could have branched a new Cleveland timeline for better or worse. Maybe the added debt/long-term lease delays the merger or it never happens. Maybe Eaton moves into this building instead of moving to Beachwood.

Again, Lol at blaming Democrats for the ridiculous new map. Make up a strawman conspiracy theory and use it justify despicable behavior. Last I checked, the people of Ohio voted to end gerrymandering. If "the D's lost" means Republicans can ignore the overwhelming majority of Ohioans, well, I don't know what to tell you.

Lol at blaming Democrats for the new district maps. The map is "better" despite solidifying more R district? I suppose that makes sense if you ignore the actual map proposed by Democrats that was far more representative of the current population.

Okay, fair enough. But if I said the city is consolidating up to 700 jobs from in and near downtown to a new public facility on the OC, not sure that would change my point.

I'm not sure 800 public sector jobs moving from downtown to the Opportunity Corridor is the gotcha you guys are implying it is.

I hope there is a webcam. The cam for the Lumen construction got a lot of run here.

I caught a bit of the meeting yesterday. One of the presenters mentioned there were utilities planned behind the blank walls around the pavilion and tower base because neither building will have a basement. A project of this scale not having any below grade space for mechanical or storage or anything just seemed strange to me. An odd place to cut cost.

Damn right. I want to know when Sherwin-Williams phase 2 is going to start.🤔 City Club seems most likely to start next. Though the way that project appears from outside, I wouldn't be surprised if it either broke ground tomorrow or was canceled entirely.

Agreed. An easement for a boardwalk would be great but I'd rather see the lot developed with something mixed use. There is a ton of park space being built in the flats already.

I think that's assumed this being Geis and GLSD.

It feels like folks are talking themselves into this being a good map in the off-chance it may introduce competitive races in the future. Sounds like wishful thinking to me. Especially considering they'll get the chance to redo it again in a few years.

Perhaps too many items on this week's agenda and they moved to the next meeting.

Design aside, at least there isn't a bunch of surface parking like the NRP group's plan on the other side of Carter.

The ground floor looks great given the use. I've never seen a big box retailer with that much glass. The outside walls are usually lined with shelves making them bunkers from the parking lot.