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I'd vote for that. It's time to put this project to bed. Admins can always move it back if there is official progress by either Stark or whoever he sells to.

Cleveland needs more developers with the juice to get these large projects moving. Most of the projects around the city are from out of town developers. Three substantial projects in Ohio City/Tremont by Chicago developers, and the Artisan in University Circle has a major Chicago partner. Plus a couple other projects from Columbus developers. Meanwhile Stark is sitting on his hands. It doesn't help that our property tax system is broken, which encourages surface lots to stay undeveloped. Here is the county assessment for the surface lot Stark paid $6.5 million for. This is pretty absurd. 420 Prospect AVE Cleveland, OH 44115 Market Values ----------------------- Land Value $808,500 Building Value $13,300 Total Value $821,800 Tax Balance Summary $32,920.36

We've seen 3 iterations of nuCLEus over the years. Medium - office tower only Large - office and apartments Extra large - office, hotel, skyscraper apartments Who knows what Stark is still planning, or even realistic for him to pull off.

The timing may also be related to the TMUD application page recently going live. This would definitely fall under the category of transformational. I suspect they'd need something more concrete than what's basically a master plan to be awarded the credit. Perhaps that's the additional info KJP is alluding to. Quicken's new local hq?

203 apartments, 254 parking spaces.

Not sure why the poster deleted it, but there was a post above linking to a PDF for the downtown design review agenda. It had massings from SomeraRoad of 5 floors of new construction over an existing 1 and 2 story garage on Boliver. Site plan looks good to me.

Doesn't sound like they give up anything substantial. At this point I'd be happy if the required retail spaces were actually usable. What's shown along the garage is likely going to be empty forever. The skywalk over W 3rd intrudes over the public right of way, which would require city approval. It's possible the fact they've approved bridges before weakens their ability to deny the encroachment if it's challenged in court, but that's different than saying they have no legal authority.

Right click, choose Measure Distance.

Just poking around the population changes at the neighborhood level. The tract encompassing western Tremont and southern Ohio City will be interesting to watch over the next few years. It lost a considerable number of people between 2010 and 2020. But there are 3 large projects under construction that alone would reverse last decade's decline, plus add residents over the 2010 numbers. Nearly 550 units would be around 700-800 people. 1. Harbor Bay - Intro (288 units) 2. Mavrek - Treo (171 units) 3. SCA - Lincoln (83 units) This doesn't include a number of projects that are in the planning stages, like the Voss factory redevelopment, the Redline TOD, etc. Or the Stoneleigh apartments because it's on the other side of Lorain in the adjacent census tract. 2020 2010 Change Total 2,711 3,137 -13.6%

The facade facing the Opportunity Corridor is hugely uninviting. I don't know why they oriented the building toward 79th. There is way too much parking fronting both streets, and probably too much in general. This is just sad:

I don't think these were posted before. Here is midsized apartment building proposed by the Krueger Group for West 58th and Breakwater Ave. It fills in the parking lot at the corner with 30 units, mostly studio and 1 bedroom. Tons of high res pics in the CPC agenda from August 6th. https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2021/PDF/CPC-presentation-08-06-2021.pdf

As best as I can tell their budget has only increased in recent years. If there is an issue with training and retention it certainly isn't because we're starving them of funding.

It'd bug me less if that's how they framed the spending, instead of wrapping it in half-truths about "economic impact". One second looking at the neighborhoods around all 3 stadiums shows how terrible these are for economic development.

^ Renovation of the warehouse was plan B (or C) after Pace was unable to find the tenants and funding for larger mixed use structures. The original site plan showed a mix of low and midrise buildings along the waterfront. As for the temporary parking lot, it's sometimes harder to get rid of greenspace than it is parking. If they are serious about actually developing this land in 5 years then it's probably better as a parking lot for now.

I hope enough teams move that it backfires and cities stop bending over backwards for them. They have no loyalty to you. I guess owners can't threaten to move to Vegas and LA any more. I feel bad for Bills fans.

Ah you're right! It's directly in line with the 5/3rd building. If you stand just a bit east, Beacon and TT fill in the gaps a little better.

The Cleveland model is missing Beacon. Otherwise it's a cool comparison. Each has at least one angle that looks nicer than the others.

I happen to like Guardians over the Spiders. Who's opinion is right?

The name is fine. We'll all get used to it in a few years.

^ Maybe a tempory construction office for the City Club Apartments?

Stone could still work on the lower levels. Posted upthread the Denver building designed by Chilton uses masonry on the ground floor and it looks great.

This will continue to happen until executives start serving real jail time. Financial penalties are a slap on the wrist.

It's unlikely the city will block the skybridge, but I'm hoping they use it and vacating Frankfort as leverage for these conditions.

That makes more sense. Thanks.

I believe that's a Dunkin Donuts. https://www.crainscleveland.com/government/carnegie-avenue-wins-friends-influences-development