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I'd like to see some contemporary examples in the 3-C. There have been a lot of townhomes built around Cleveland. Few have the same feel as the historic examples. I wonder if that's just the lack of patina on the buildings or the general form, like the front porch, setbacks, or whatever.

I agree. Though bikes can travel much faster than most scooters. Maybe the distinction should be based on vehicle weight and max speed, rather than arbitrarily banning anything with wheels.

I know it's not popular opinion, but these things belong on the sidewalk not the street when there's no protected bike lane (which is nearly everywhere). Otherwise you are putting your life in the hands of drivers texting on their phones or on heroin. https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/08/20/speeding-driver-high-on-heroin-kills-woman-in-downtown-clev-ban-all-scooters-now

Awesome, that's a detailed presentation. The elevations show a floor-to-floor height of 9'8". What would that make the finished ceiling height -- 8' ?

Redirecting from the Ohio City thread -- mu2010[/member] Eastside[/member] The Duck Island master plan from a few years ago envisioned townhomes on the GCRTA land along Columbus. The city is holding a public meeting on August 17th to discuss rezoning most of Duck Island. The GCRTA land you mentioned is the blue area along Columbus from Lorain south to W.25th., earmarked to become a multi-family designation. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/mc/pdf/MC2586-Public-Notification.pdf

Huge thumbs up on the proposal. I hope they can get tenants for the office space without poaching downtown. My only complaint, and it's a minor one, I would rather see a strong statement at the corner of W. 25th and Lorain. Rather than worrying about respecting the Westside Market. I'd rather they make a statement of their own and build tall right up to the corner.

It sounds like their plans are to keep it "mall-ish" with a significant retail component. Oddly enough keeping it a mall might be the path of least resistance. Especially if the downtown and adjacent neighborhoods population continues to rise.

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None probably. Which of these would realistically pay rent for brand new space? And wait 2 years to open. H&R Block Spectrum Sherwin-Williams Subway Keybank Chinatown Two Cousins Pizza Hut Its a decent tenant mix right now.

Acquisition cost for a fully leased strip plaza has be very high. I imagine it'd have to be 10+ stories to make back that money.

^ I'd guess the latter, based on the discussion about Weston and Kertesz going back some weeks/months with the Lutheran Hospital parking lot which is further north on W.25th. That lot was talked about here years ago when the entire corridor was rezoned. It would be great to see an actual plan put out there. Weston being involved doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies, but who knows maybe this will go farther than their Warehouse District proposal. Edit: Seems I guessed wrong. See below.

Okay, apparently direct linking to images in a shared Google Photo album is flaky. I updated the posts with the images attached instead of direct-linked.

A shot of the in-progress Mercury Townhomes on West 17th. http://www.duckislanddevelopment.com/mercury-townhomes/ And lastly, a couple shots of the townhomes at the northeast corner of Columbus Road and Freeman, across from Forest City Brewery. edit: Attached images instead of direct linking.

Here is a picture of this place from the front and the one next-door who's foundation you can see in your pic. Lorain and West 17th(?), I think edit: Attached picture instead of direct link.

Yes Cedar Lee Development is the Snavely Group with LDA as architect. Here is their proposal. https://www.clevelandheights.com/DocumentCenter/View/3676

There are way to do that without destroying the aesthetic value of the trees. God forbid somebody tries to fix First Energy's lazy, unprofessional process.

So many trees are getting mangled. Worse still, a statement from First Energy says the directional pruning is good for the tree by making them less susceptible to pests and decay. Utter bullcrap.

Thanks for the link. It looks like they still have dreams of that water fountain. The article links to a full presentation that mentions a water feature for "phase 3". The initial phase looks good and very reasonable. The rest looks like a waste. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kEdl3pCqob_pbyO4vhNL0V0vvl9i4VyU/view

Is that the huge shower/waterfall thing on the previous page? Is that still moving forward?

Those look great. Even with the dark paint color, they are very inviting from the sidewalk too. Way better than the older units just to the east of these. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4875122,-81.7244901,3a,59.1y,164.03h,97.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3uAhfZDF4_B3RFlQSRd_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Yeah. Could result in a massive loss in local jobs too. Their US headquarters is in New York. Do they have any other regional offices, like Chicago or wherever? Maybe Cleveland could remain a regional HQ for the former FCE operations.

There was just an article in Crains about the price of water adjacent property relative to the rest of the market. If I remember correctly Cleveland fared extremely well in that stat. Which to be fair probably doesn't mean much since so many inland neighborhoods have waaay below average housing value. But still it was an interesting read. I'll see if I can find a link. edit: Found the link. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20180711/news01/167946/what-would-you-pay-live-water-premium-falling-nationwide-though

I wouldn't take what OCI and McCormack said too literally. A close vote could easily change their mind, even without a simple majority. Which is why its important that people show up to show their support.

How is Cincinnati lumped in with those other towns? Is the frequency/schedule really that bad they have that low of ridership?

Here is the rendering from the article.