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If it was 1 million out of 3 million, then yes it would be significant. And yes, I would probably change my tune. From what I've seen though the push to change the mascot is predominantly media driven, despite the handful of Native Americans that show up to the home opener every year (1 game!). That's mighty white of you. But I am not sure it would bother me. :-D Nice! I heard that a lot growing up. Happens with an odd name that rhymes.

I agree it's arbitrary. Do you concede change for 1 person or all of them? Where do you draw the line between, or is there even a line?

The only difference is about 100 years of history and desensitization. Field a sports franchise called the New York Jews and make the comparison again in 2114. See if your mind makes the connection between the caricature and religion as it does now. Spoiler alert: it won't.

I never claimed otherwise. Somewhere between 1 and 10 million. You find me a source indicating definitively what percentage of Indians are offended and want it changed. Then maybe I'll change my tune. Until that happens, all I hear is a ridiculously loud vocal minority comprised mostly of white people telling me it's offensive, and "it's 2014 and I should know better." :roll:

I would neither change the Indians name or their logo. The number of people offended by it is not significant enough for me to care.

Would a B-spot disappoint you guys?

I started thumbing through this thread when I saw KJP move it to the active forum. The amount of arguing and hostile posts -- hostile for UO, anyway -- is interesting. I didn't live in Cleveland at the time, so I didn't experience the craziness of this and the Stark projects and their eventual collapse. I want to see something 30+ floors with integrated parking and built up to the street on all sides. The actual architecture to me is secondary. Something mixed use and tall with proper sidewalk interaction should be priority #1.

I thought RTA was getting a bunch of new articulated buses for the new Clifton route. Maybe that's these?

I think what we're realizing is that having a mix of residents and office workers is best for any micro-economy. Here's a question: Despite the additional office workers in the 80's, would you rather be downtown late at night now or then? The general sentiment is that residents are more likely to shop where they live.

Why does Public Square need more retail? There is a casino and several stores along South Roadway/Euclid. And considerably more down Euclid toward East 4th. I'm all about better connectivity west of Public Square toward the Warehouse District, but it doesn't necessarily have to be on the square.

The trees in front of Corner Alley are the biggest on the street and even a couple of those have large swaths of dead branches. Kind of weird. The north side right above the on-street parking has a bunch dead branches, like something was sprayed on them.

^ This? http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/05/cleveland_police_celebrates_44_1.html

Obsolescence is as much about availability of parts, as it is age -- something that staggered buying won't help you with.

^ Yep. $14 mill signing bonus. Dude got paid.

From the article: Why?

My comment was related to the Browns (and other cities with chronically bad teams) as being perennial losers. Not the cities themselves. Unless you think I'm here bagging on Cleveland. :roll: edited for snarkiness

I love the hype machine behind Manziel and the Browns. A boost in season ticket sales after the first round? :roll: It happens after every splashy draft. I heard the same story after Thomas/Quinn and Richardson/Wheedon. I'm happy with the draft so far but the Gordon story is a huge gray cloud hanging over the team until it gets sorted out. And I don't regret for one second not trading him. HoF wide receivers don't come around that often, even if you have to put up with the bullshit.

Fair enough. The owner of Good Karma Broadcasting is from the Green Bay area and was on the Rizzo show earlier this week. He said himself the fever over the draft wasn't anything like this in Green Bay. He jokingly said the town doesn't even know who they drafted until they show up on the field on gameday. Here's my rumor for the day: I hear the Browns are going to draft somebody at #4 or they might trade down (possibly up). They really like Mack, Robinson, Watkins, Clowney, Manziel, and a bunch of other people. Somebody should tweet that at Mortenson and the other idiots at ESPN that need a story to manufacture. (this offseason has been especially aggravating to me)

No I haven't. That's why I'm so sick of talking about the damn draft. All the foreplay, none of the payoff.

@KJP Your evidence is randomly tuning into a sports talk radio station on the day of the draft 2 hours before it starts? Even then they are partially talking hockey. Try getting some samples in December. @Hts121 I wouldn't doubt other football crazy towns talk a lot of draft. I just doubt the teams in the 20's are as obsessed about it. How many times have you heard people glibly say the draft is our super bowl? This year put me over the edge.

@KJP Yeah of course and that's for the GM to worry about. Anything outside the top 10 is boring radio. Do you think talk radio in Boston is breaking down New England's 20-whatever pick in the first round? Or the guard they hope to take in the 3rd round? Nope, especially not 24/7 like we do here and likely other perennial loser cities. @Hts121 Cities of winning teams don't spend nearly the energy wringing their hands over the draft as we do. Following the draft is one thing. The 24/7 coverage since our season ended in November is exhausting -- while teams are still playing meaningful football. Think Seattle was worried about Johnny Football's bowl game when they were busy winning the Super Bowl?

I just hope the Browns get good so we can stop giving a shit about the draft. The draft talk got old before the regular season ended.

Trivassano is anti-issue 7? Maybe I should reconsider my position.

I think our disagreement stems from the notion that a rock climbing gym would somehow negatively affect your property value. I don't see how you came to that conclusion. Not a all commercial uses are the same. Moreover the restoration of the church could truly be something special for the neighborhood. How will it change your quiet street? Are you worried people will be walking to the gym from their homes increasing pedestrian foot traffic? Sounds like a good problem to have.

A couple other things from the design review. It included a rendering of the Rotunda with LED uplighting. Looked sharp. They are updating the clock tower at the corner with a digital face. Not sure how I feel about that. Probably more usable at night at least. edit typo: meant uplighting not uplifting - damn autocorrect