FancyMustard

Both of those projects look fantastic! I'm really suprised more of the buildings around Washington Park arent already all rehabbed; such prime realestate. Rhinehaus is going to be amazing once completed, that place will be rolling in cash.

[Dont know where to post this] Liberty Street road diet and bicycle lanes moves forward: http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2012/12/liberty-street-road-diet-other-changes.html "A City Council motion sponsored by Vice Mayor Roxanne Qualls, adopted unanimously at Council's December 14 meeting, says that the implementation would "renovate streets in the Brewery District into multi-modal corridors that enable the creation of vibrant public places and that encourage the development of private property into a mixed-use, sustainable neighborhood.""

How do we not have renderings less than 2 months away from groundbreaking? Dont those have to go through an approval process of some sort?

It's definitely still possible for a mall to be successful. Right in downtown Seattle there's Pacific Place mall, which is very similar to Tower Place, and still fully leased and successful. I think the key is to have high visibile anchor businesses that will always bring people in. A movie theater is an example. Another reason for success could be just higher downtown population. It's also necessary to have a collection of shops that aren't available in other places.

1) Logistically speaking: How in the world to they build a skyscraper on top of an existing building? Is this common? 2) Its great to hear of all these new developments, but can the Cincinnati population use all these effectively? With this, the banks, the old Enquirer building, 580, Mercer project, random OTR projects, seems like there will be too big of a supply for the demand.

Sorry, but where are there balconies? I dont see any on this building, probably because it was built for office.

Does anyone know the reason for so many surface parking lots in the plan for this? Seems like such a waste of space for a blank canvas.

I think that this is the best knews that we can hope for. There needs to be a catalyst for development north of Liberty, and the market can do exactly that. Great to hear they have plans to expand up there. Sorry to derail from topic... Was there any word on dates when renderings would appear(for 5th and Race)?

So, did the 2 actually buy the whole building? And are responsible for the renovations and development of the upper floors? Restaurant and realestate seems like a lot of work! Edit: Derp, nevermind. I reread the story.

Wow, these are gonna look quite different that what they were before (UGLY!). But, no balconies? The college parties on those balconies were great.

For those who are unaware or just dim (ME!), how does this signing progress the construction? Will plans need to be reconfigured for WF, or were things dependant upon a large business?

What an awful list. Encouraging people to break laws not only makes a bad name for cyclists but it encourages people to be unsafe. The only time a cyclist should be going through a light is when it is green. Thats it. Black and white issue here.

Is there any possibility that the strip mall at 25th and Lorain being bought and bulldozed into mixed use developments? Would that be worthwhile for a developer?

LAWD!!! You didn't answer my question, you danced around it. I wouldn't consider that area/land prime, in any sense of the word, and if a development was built there, I THINK the RIO would be low considering what is immediate to the north/northwest. and a view of a highway to the south/southeast. If I'm buying in Cleveland and at/in a development in a new part of town and you offer me a view of a salt mine, i'd look at you as if you were crazy. I can afford to buy anywhere and I wouldn't buy in a building there. I do believe people want to live in near Clevelands CBD, HOWEVER with all the existing buildings in the CBD that can be reimagined, that area is low on the list for redevelopment. I dont think I could have answered your question in more of a direct manner. You asked where I got my numbers from, and I told you I got them from conventional reasoning. Considering there are condos that sold very well next to the Superior Ave bridge on Detroit Ave, I would have to say that you are wrong in your assumption that they wouldn't sell. The two locations are in almost the exact same position (next to a bridge and in west bank flats) and offer similar views (Lake View terrace having the ability with better views). I would also point to Battery Park where homes are built near industrial areas and sell like hotcakes. What is your reasoning for believing that keeping public housing on lake front property in the flats would be a better financial decision than market rate housing (which have been proven to sell well)?

That assumption is based off of conventional reasoning after seeing every single lakefront property in history have higher property value. Do you feel that public housing in this area is a financially better outcome than market rate condos/apartments? Do you believe that people dont want to live near downtown, the Flats, Ohio City, and detroit shoreway? Based off of demand in those areas a reasonable person would believe that that location could be prime realestate, especially compared to public housing. Cleveland has a history of making poor decisions with lakefront development, and this is certainly one of them.

Completely agree. I'm so sick of reading or hearing that an entire development or neighborhood should be turned over and bulldozed because of the actions of one or a few. Give it a rest! It's not soley because of the actions of a few, but because of the housing/retail opportunities that are completely lost by keeping this public housing. Imagine turning this entire area into mid-high rise market rate condos or apartments. Ground floor retail and parks galore along the river could be a catalyst for linking CBD, OC, and DS. If attractive homes were built here with views of the city and lake, there would be waiting lists a year long to get there. And exactly what do you do with those living in those homes? Do they NO say? Just because they are poor or living in public housing that doesn't mean they should have to move. Then the city moves them somewhere else. It's a poor financial decision for the city to let public housing occupy prime lakefront/riverfront land that could be turned into a goldmine. Its decisions like this that is typical for Cleveland in the past, but needs to change in the future. Public housing tentants dont need lakefront property nor do they need homes in the inner city ring.

Completely agree. I'm so sick of reading or hearing that an entire development or neighborhood should be turned over and bulldozed because of the actions of one or a few. Give it a rest! It's not soley because of the actions of a few, but because of the housing/retail opportunities that are completely lost by keeping this public housing. Imagine turning this entire area into mid-high rise market rate condos or apartments. Ground floor retail and parks galore along the river could be a catalyst for linking CBD, OC, and DS. If attractive homes were built here with views of the city and lake, there would be waiting lists a year long to get there.

For out-of-towners, can you expand on what this is and what the plans are? And great pics, too.

Please excuse my extreme naivety, but if the demand in OTR is at such a high demand, why isn't 3CDC doing more to strike when the iron is hot? I understand they've done a ton, but can't they do more at once? Or are they already at max operating capacity? Is there any possibility that they are doing enough to change the neighborhood but purposely keep supply low and demand high?

Ruth's Chris is not bad, but the Precinct is better in almost every way.

<<Not sure if this is the best place for this>> http://3cdc.org/images/editor/July%20Monthly%20Report.pdf In 3CDC's July monthly report they mentioned progress on 'Phase 5'. Does anyone know where these 19 buildings are located and when they are expected to be finished? I was just wondering considering the size of the phase seems rather large, what with 70 condos and 23 apartments. Is this a long term deal?

Yet another chain and yet another steakhouse? Sigh.. I suppose it's a nice looking building and the suburbanites will enjoy it.

A Christian store at a University? Calling it now: 6 months for it to go out of business. Although, the clothes look reasonably hip, it might work out. I thought it was your typical Bible and cross store.