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Here appears to be the latest info on Van Aken - including new renderings I've not seen - and other detail: http://www.thevanakendistrict.com/RMS-Retail-Leasing.pdf

But Flip Side you can have at, what, 4-5 other locations in CLE - including nearby Chagrin Falls... Shake Shack was more unique - though since they originally had shown serious interest with a LOI, other plans may be afoot.

...and then the Pinecrest leasing map, updated 10/28/15, became a lot less interesting versus the August map... (bye, bye Shake Shack and your letter of intent, hello, Flip Side... etc...) http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55258038e4b09e55321180a6/t/56377b58e4b04f32230f8167/1446476632979/PinecrestVisionBook.pdf

I disagree... Denver and Tampa and MSP, for instance, are essentially NEO-sized... and THEY have good outreach Compared to every 'city our size" and many smaller ones (Charlotte, maybe SLC, Portland, etc..) CLE airport is seriously lacking in service, whether they are boxing above their weight and CLE boxing below ours or not. Hey but it is easy to use..

Where did these two stores appear to be located when opened? Or was it just a coming soon sign not in a specific space? I ask because all exterior spaces are leased, aren't they (unless they are going in the soon-to-be-vacant Trader Joe's space?). If interior mall stores I can't imagine they would be anything more than pop-ups.. Or at least I don't see Lucky opening a real store within the quiet mall section. Eileen Fisher maybe. If Lucky us opening there, so soon after closing, it seems they were likely pushed out of BP for Zara... or expansion.

As a frequent flyer, I cut Hopkins some slack, for not being newer or grander, since it has flights to most places the bulk of us need to go and is, comparatively, easy to use. As a home airport, it's a pretty good one. At the same time, I just flew in tonight, around 6:45, and it is getting unbelievably depressing walking through the airport from that gime onward. Many stores and restaurants are closed or closing, the concourse C security checkpoint is already closed (and B is now TSA Pre only = walk to A apparently) - and only 17 departures were left on the board for the rest of thenight.... At 6:45! Depressing...

Not disagreeing there are potentially better ways to connect grocery and lifestyle.. I have seen them, too but still don't think this placement is awful or that it will affect the center's draw or success. I took a look at the Potomac example you gave and see what you mean. But looks like if the Whole Foods were moved about 150 ft diagonal towards the Ponecresr main street it would be about where the Wegman's you note is (in line, end of main street) in similar decelopment. (i can think of other Whole Foods locations - like Mercato in Naples or Clay Terrace in Indy, where the Whole Foods is at end of main shopoing street, but perpendicular to it, tucked away right around the corner and maybe feeling more xonnexted. Funny you mention Hudson Heinen's, though. I lived in Hudson at the time of its opening and for 6 years thereafter. This is the most perfect grocery stcomein combo of size, selection, ease of use... The biggest issue? Parking... So close to shopping that many non Heinen's shoppers would dill up the lot. Here in Chagrin Falls, Heinen's contnues to waffle on building a much-needed store in the downtown shopping plaza... Enough dedicated parking spaces - as it now shares them with all adjacent Main Street and plaza businesses - is the issue. My guess is that parking and separation is likely a Whole Foods concern at Pinecrest. If shoppers have to fight for a space, they may not come, connectivity or not.

Mwd711: I certainly agree with you on the Legacy Village "isolation" issue. I, for one, am at Legacy probably 3-4 times a week, most weeks, but almost exclusively to Nordstrom Rack and Cheesecake Factory - both of which are set apart from the development's main street and whose locations don't easily invite a stroll over to the shopping area.. I have rarely just walked up and down the streets... maybe 1-2x a year.. And the development, as a whole, has some very successful outlets (Cheesecake, for one, is a top 15-20 store in their high volume chain... which is saying something...) At the same time, I think grocery stores, whether Giant Eagle at Legacy, Trader Joe's at Eton (soon to be freestanding with parking) or Whole Foods at Pinecrest serve different purposes than an inline main street or anchor store at those centers. They are another draw to the center, but not necessarily a draw that will create same-visit spinoff. My point being that when I am going to the grocery store, and I think a good segment of the (suburban) populace would feel the same, I want a convenient place to park (isolated grocery adjacent parking lot) and am thinking about the perishability of my purchases = I am coming to grocery shop, then going home. I am not also going to dinner, seeing a movie, etc... on the same visit. Pinecrest will have fewer than 100 apartments, and While Foods will still be very convenient to those (even with a walk across the concrete). while the local trade area, to which the location is geared, might have 100,000+ Whole Foods potential shoppers who will arrrive by car. Though the Giant Eagle at Legacy IS oddly placed, ths Pinecrest Whole Foods is likely moving for the higher highway visibilty and ability to build a new, larger space vs the smaller former Wild Oats space they are in now. I think Legacy has not succeeded like it should have due to: 1) isolation of some anchor tenants and fact that drivers aren't as forced to drive down or past main street as they are at Crocker Park = less main street and pedestrian traffic. Easy to shop the perimeters at Legacy 2) adjacent Beachwood Place already had many of the traffic-driving retail draws for the east side of town, a problem Crocker didnt have 3) Really tough luck with the 15+ major chains/tenants that have left in the last decade due fo closing all or most stores nationally. Pinecrest, on the other hand, will have a main entrance that will funnel drivers directly iff of Harvard Rd on to Main Street.... and past key retailers. Already a big difference vs Legacy. And many big name retail draws.

I believe first space to north of LL Bean (former Talbot 's Kids?)

I certainly don't believe all retailers at Pinecrest, in yellow, are ones they are seriously down the discussion road with. At the same time it has to be rooted in some reality - or else the Burberry, Vuitton, Tory Burch types, not in the market, would almost surely be listed as targets on this map, wouldn't they? Or at least as "upscale fashion" or "home" or similar generic placeholders, in the original map... But these are very specific names, including ones at other centers that could be issues if they aren't actually talking to them. Oh, and the incomes in the nearby Census blocks they note in the copy in the report certainly can't hurt their efforts... $200Kish+. Those would entice most any retailer in any market

So stumbled across the latest Pinecrest leasing map - likely not fully intended for public viewing -- and found some huge surprises on here in the mix of signed, negotiating, letter-of-intent or place marked retailers in available spaces... (the latter grouping perhaps not yet being serious - but at least offering guidance as to the type of/exact retailers they have spoken to or are seriously targeting...) Previously known for the development have been likely retailers such as Container Store and West Elm, along with REI and Silverspot Cinemas, etc... But, upon seeing the latest info, it's surprising, in both in what's potentially moving from nearby Legacy (Arhaus, Lilly Pulitzer, Janie and Jack, Loft, etc... - that will hurt Legacy), from Eton (Blue Mercury) or Beachwood Place/former La Place (Pottery Barn Kids, Williams-Sonoma, Banana Republic, Athleta(?), Brigade) - to some big-name or trendy national retailers possibly coming to the market, including Shake Shack, Vineyard Vines, Warby Parker, Club Monaco, Mitchell Gold+Bob Williams, Alex & Ani - to some regional favorites - like Columbus' Northstar Cafe and Homage (and 4-5 independent Columbus boutiques), Cincy's Nada and Graeter's and a new Cleveland concept - Michael Symon Steak(!).... along with Erie Island Coffee - and more... True to their agreement, Pinecrest appears to be headed towards 65%+ new-to-market retailers - though the potential movement of retailers from other local centers is significant and will definitely create some huge leasing competition... At the same time, most of these are just preliminary placements on the leasing map. Soft Surroundings, for one, is noted on the Pinecrest roster - but just signed at Legacy.. - and Kona Grill is gone from earlier leasing maps. http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55258038e4b09e55321180a6/t/55cce09de4b0dc6eee3d987e/1439490205883/PinecrestVisionBook.pdf One more interesting thing... The bottom middle space in parking lot is noted as "Design Gallery" - 4 stories, 50,000 square feet... If that's truly what they mean - a huge 50,000 square feet - not 5,000 - it sounds just like this new Restoration Hardware 70,000 square foot - 4 story - "design gallery" in Denver... Hmmm...: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_28971482/rh-open-4-story-design-gallery-cherry-creek

Wow. I own and love Shinola watches (and wallet). Can't believe this. Had hoped they were looking at Cleveland but nuCLEus was more my thought.. I hope they can get pther marquee retailers of this type. What a catch for this development.

http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/10/06/ken-stewarts-to-close-in-flats-east-bank-bold-food-and-drink-to-open

Odddom considering that Cleveland is often rated one of the fattest cities in the country. One can only imagine what the means for the sedentary exurban residents that will travel the freeway to frequent this place. Just so I'm clear, it's OK to fat-shame on this board? But if I, say, thug-shamed I'd feel the heat from many posters...

Yes. Mall expansion is 15+ months = late Fall 2016. If Zara coming I bet other meaningful retailers have signed on to renenergize the Saks wing. Also, Pinecrest now confirmed as Spring 2017 opening, not next Fall.

Margaritaville may not be MY style... But it will be a draw, and that's good for the FEB...

Zara is a real "get" for Beachwood Place, as it still is relatively rare in the US. As for any buzz, the Saks adjacent space in question was being prepped the last few weeks and was signless as recently as thr weekend, so sign literally could have gone up today. Could Zara have an outside entrance as part of the BP expansion right through its back wall? Perhaps.

Saks exit closed due to stolen truck crashing through to steal purses. Pardon our dust = unintended dsut.

So that would seem to indicate that Paladar will exit and will turn into the more casual Bomba, as recently opened in Rocky River.

I ran across a Bob Stark comment from this Summer in which he notes that the Eton Trader Joe's is the "most successful suburban store" in the country from that chain (if so, that's really saying something). Also, a spread in the new Cleveland Magazine confirmed that 3 retailers are signed to split up the Eton Trader Joe's 9,700 foot space when it moves to the new 14,000ish square foot store in the coming months.

Rendering (first?) of Symon's Mabel's BBQ exterior went up today on the Mabel's BBQ Facebook page

I know the Ruby reputation (and fondly remember my college-age date-night splurges at his Precinct and Waterfront in Cincy), so this is really great news for downtown CLE. But, looking at the Jeff Ruby website... the menu prices are just "wow".. even by expensive steakhouse standards.. Oh, but still can't wait to go... http://www.jeffruby.com/files/pages/36/menu.pdf

Ahhhh... It's been explained... It's a Restoration Hardware outlet store - not a regular, full-line, full-priced "gallery" store... which are more 10,000-12,000 sq ft

So typical of the sprawl attitude around here: "What's in it for me?" Yep, sorry... I don't recycle either... That probably kills you...

The announced space is about 3X the size of similar RH stores in Col/Ciin/Cle... I can't believe that's accurate as a one-retailer space...