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Fox 8 did a nice piece on Stark's plans last night. http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Business/Detail?contentId=4818949&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=4.1.1 Nothing new said here... just nice to see the local news starting to talk more about it.

From the Akron Beacon Journal 10/22/2007 Metro RTA to breakground on station Published on Monday, Oct 22, 2007 Metro RTA to break ground on station AKRON: The Metro Regional Transit Authority will break ground today on its new transfer station on South Broadway. The ceremony, scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. near East Bartges Street, will include appearances by Akron Mayor Don Plusquellic, U.S. Sen. George Voinovich, U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown, U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan, U.S. Rep. Betty Sutton, Summit County Executive Russ Pry and ODOT Director James Beasley. More at http://www.ohio.com/news/10709791.html

^ Yes, that is it. I can't remeber what was last in their a few years ago (I wanna say a sign shop?). It right across the street from the Beacon Journal.

Wow... impressive. Akron is certainly benefiting from the U of A's progress in recent years. Great for the university and the city.

Happy B-Day! :clap:

Great pics ColDay, great to see my old city in new city in one beautiful thread.

^ I hope Plusqealic's (the mayor, I know it's not spelled right) plan takes off. The highway is so underutilized and removing the northern portion would help reconnect downtown with some the near westside neighborhoosds. I grew just a few blocks from the Innerbelt; I remember when was completed 20 years ago, I thought it was the coolest thing back then.

^ I wouldn't say the city is dying; in fact, economically it's one of the healthier cities in Ohio. I grew up just south of downtown Akron and it's come a long way in the past couple of decades from what it was when I was a kid. Unfortunately, Akron went overboard in the 60's and 70's with the urban renewal and decided to bulldoze large chunks of downtown and areas surrounding downtown (i.e.; Howard Street, which housed many jazz clubs and was once a very thriving business district). What you have left is section of town that really feels disconnected from the neighboring neighborhoods and virtually no streetlife afterhours (except at the far southern end of downtown). Oh, and by the way... nice pics Monte

I believe Cleveland is just over 100 for the year so far... I wanna say about 102 I believe? The others I'm not really sure of.

Ahh, Wooster... I love their downtown. They by far have one to the best small town downtowns in NEO.

^ Dang, I just realized there isn't a double 'T' at the end. I'm getting closer to correctly spelling Cincinnati without having to look it up.

The Natti look good as always. Great pics Grasscat!

I've always liked downtown Canton. It's always looks real neat and clean. The rest of Canton, however, doesn't really thrill me.

^ So true... I've noticed when looking at forums for other cities across the country, you always have natives who are down on the city for whatever reason, even in the sunbelt cities. When you have a fresh populace coming into the region, they usually have a more open mind and fresh outlook on their new home; thus, they're likely to have a better perception of the city than those that have lived there all their lives and seen all of it's ills. We don't currently have a fresh populace moving into the region; therefore, the stagnant stench of negativity continually presides over Greater Cleveland.

I read the story when it was posted on NewsNet5. Always good to get an endorsement from Oprah. ^ lol, I know what you mean.

Welcome to the forum FromTHALand! I personally feel that when you get out of NEO, you get a better perception of Cleveland. Those old stereotypes will always be prevelent, but for the most part, many outsiders seem to have a positive view of the city. It's the natives that have such a negative view of Cleveland. I'm a life long resident of NEO (born and raised in Akron) and Cleveland was always seen as "bad" when I was growing up. My wife (a proud Cleveland native) and I recently moved up from Akron to the Heights area and when people heard we were moving to the Cleveland area, the outpouring of concern and fear for the lives of us and our children began. I think lopsidedfrock hit it right on the nail. So many people have fled the city for whatever reason over the past several decades that the general thought within the region is that the city is dying and the only ones who currently live in Cleveland proper are those that don't have the means to get out. Then you have the local media which consistantly pumps up negative stories about the city and region as means of "creating awareness"; most of us are aware of Cleveland's ills. Instead of focusing on all the negativity, we should collectively focus on the positives and ways the build upon and enhance Cleveland's already impressive foundation. But we all now that in Cleveland, if you talk too much about the positives, you'll be accused of trying to blanket and cover up the negatives. Sigh.... the cycle never ends :roll:

Wow, I didn't think it could get any better than last week, but Michigan didn't disappoint :-D. In all honesty, they looked so sluggish on both sides of the ball. I called a couple of Oregan's TD's right on que; it was like you just knew when they were going to score on Michigan. Sad day to be a Wolverine's fan :laugh:

^ Sadly, that doesn't shock me. I've been lurking on the Cleveland.com boards lately and was quite apalled to read some of the stuff people feel free and write online. Some of the underlying racism in this region is disturbing; people won't say it out loud, but give them an outlet to vent anonymously and they'll tell the world exactly what they feel. I was speaking with a co-worker the other day and we were having a discussion about some of the rougher parts of the Cleve and he mentioned how he couldn't believe that his mother used to allow him and his friends to go downtown by themselves growing up. I responded... "why, is downtown really that dangerous?" Everyone knows Cleveland has some sketchy areas, but downtown???... c'mon folks, it ain't that bad. :roll: I was speaking with another co-worker about a month ago about our then upcoming move to Cleveland Hts. and how excited my wife and I were. We then got to talking about Chicago and I mentioned how if it weren't for our little ones, we'd probably do downtown living here in Cleveland since my wife and I really fell in love with Chicago on our visit. Her response was.... "You don't want to live down there, there's nothing going on downtown, it's usually dead." :whip: Such a not true statement; however, that's the perception of many who never or rarely venture into the city.

Miiichigan... ha, ha :lol: Go Bucks!!!

^ Thanks for the link

Beautiful shots RiverViewer, you had a great view of the fireworks. ^ Anyone know what that glass building across the river (I'm assuming that's Covington?) Me like.

TMH, I agree. I've been in Greater Cleveland for less than a month and only currently receive the Sunday PD; however, it seems like every week some bleak story about Cleveland is the lead story. No wonder people around here have such a negative perception of the city; it's constantly drilled into their heads by the local media (print, TV, and radio) that their city is the most dangerous, poorest, decaying and dying, and rapidly shrinking into oblivion.

Wow... that's a nice little neighborhood. I've get down to the 'Bus sometime and explore some of it's older neighborhoods. Everyone I know in C-Bus stays east of Whitehall, so I've never really seen a lot of these older hoods except for here on UO.

^ Yes sir, that's the truth. I was driving around the Union-Kinsman area the other day around the time school got out. I've got to admit, it was nice to see the teenage boys walking around in khakis and collared shirts instead of looking at sagging pants and boxers. So far, I'm impressed by Dr. Sanders; hopefully, these changes will begin to be reflected in the academic performance within the Cleveland schools in the coming years. I'm optomistic that things will change for the better (not that they can get any worse). Better schools means a better Cleveland, plain and simple.

I'm glad I got to see the inside of the hotel recently. In all my years in Akron, I had never been past the banquet halls; the hotel is truley unique. I used to love going to Quaker Square when I was a kid. It's been sad seeing it empty out over the years. ^ I couldn't agree more.