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Case in point... It may be a huge deal for OTR but it does nothing for Cleveland. I don't care about OTR...I care about Cleveland. The award going to the music hall means that it does not go to the May Co. Zero sum game it is.

Omg, I think I'm going to puke. Seriously though, tax credits are a zero sum game. No one is going to be conciliatory for a project that didn't deserve to win.

No, it automatically skims $5 million of the top of the next rounds for 5 years.

Has anyone heard about other winners/losers?

Yeah sorry but that's a bunch of BS. The music hall, regardless the condition of its interior, is currently operation, right? So please tell me what "catalytic" impact new mechanical systems in the music hall will make in OTR? Also, the costs for rehab were rejected when put to municipal vote - so that gives you an idea of the local interest. Meanwhile, the May Co. building sits vacant right on PS.

No implication necessary, it's explicit: Music Hall gets $25M historic tax credit There won't be any sad trombones playing at Music Hall on Thursday. State development officials announced the historic Over-the-Rhine building will receive a $25 million tax credit for its rehabilitation efforts. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2014/12/17/music-hall-get-credits-needs/20541363/

University Circle-area police station, library sites are sure to pique developer interest CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The city of Cleveland has issued a long-awaited request for proposals from developers who want to remake a prime site at the edge of University Circle. Cleveland's third district police force is scheduled to move next year, in summer or fall, to a new building at 4501 Chester Ave. That move will open up the current third district station, a 1960s building on a 1.64-acre property at Chester and East 107th Street. At the western rim of University Circle, the old police station falls just north of the Cleveland Clinic's main campus and east of new development, including apartments rising along Chester and a planned Clinic-Case Western Reserve University medical education building. In a neighborhood seeing job growth and a residential building boom, the city's site is sure to generate interest from nearby property owners and developers pursuing more housing, retail and mixed-use projects. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/12/university_circle-area_police.html#incart_river

Tale of Two Cities: Cleveland In the past 10 years, the metro of Cleveland has become a destination of its own. It was even selected to host the 2016 Republican National Convention. Downtown Cleveland has been transformed from abandoned skyscrapers, to multi-use buildings that contain luxury apartments and upscale restaurants, while still preserving historic features. It boasts iconic architecture like the building that houses the Museum of Contemporary Art, and new, modern housing to encourage living downtown. "What's evident in Cleveland is that they were really building an empire," said DMC Master Planner Peter Cavaluzzi. "And the architecture and public spaces are really about creating a great city."... ....."I always knew that if you put the Cleveland Clinic against the Mayo Clinic we'd win every time,” said DMCC Board's R.T. Rybak. “And I always thought, 'boy we can knock Cleveland out of the park.' Not true anymore." http://www.kttc.com/story/27382539/2014/11/13/tale-of-two-cities-cleveland

Cleveland's CBD survived pretty well but the east side neighborhoods would show a much more drastic change/decline.

Uhhh what? Do you doubt that the $100m bond will be spent in the way Mayor Jackson claims it will? Also, the last paragraph lists "private investment partners." Economic development and community development groups are either nonprofits or public sector people so it shouldn't be a surprise that it lists banks as they would be the folks involved in private investment.

I'm starting to think that we're not very good at playing football.

From the Cuyahoga County Planning's twitter account @countyplanning Anagrammed RTA Map

Ehh, I don't know if he should have said what he said today so early in the game, especially because I don't feel like the people who voiced opposition are representative of the community's feelings. Oh, and the commission did point out that the Clinton-Franklin Ave. area has a mix of uses with various heights as is, so it's not like there is not a precedent for this project. Like just around the corner on Franklin and 29th there's a 4 story apartment building and then on Clinton and 38th is another 4 story apartment buildings. KJP - There were two women, one was from the law firm (a Ms. Schuster) and I don't know the name of the other woman from the townhouse across the street. Was he super harsh or just a lil' harsh?

Bbbbbooooooooooooooooooooo Good for Fred, he has balls of steel.

So, with all these projects in northern Ohio City and with the possibility of big chunks of land becoming available in the future (Max Hayes, Hillside behind Riverview Tower, Scranton Peninsula), I got to thinking about possible rail transit solutions for near west side. Obviously, infrastructure cost is our obstacle. This is why I propose some ideas to make use of existing ROW and infrastructure, specifically Route 2. Ideally, we could build along Detroit Ave but this seems to be a non-starter as Detroit is not wide enough to accommodate a dedicated rail ROW and auto traffic. With the recent changes to the Shoreway, this signals to me that we are at least reconsidering total deference to fast moving auto traffic on Route 2. This plan considers the possibility of adding a rail ROW either on Route 2 or on the grassy lawn immediately south of the existing lanes. The black boxes with white text are the distances (in miles) between stops. Option 1 This option begins at Tower City, uses the 2nd level and the Detroit-Superior Bridge and rises to an at grade ride immediately after west 25th and continues along the southern edge of Route 2 to the Max Hayes site, which is a possible huge development area. The route continues to the site of the huge NRP project that has the possibility to expand on adjacent land, including the renovation of the Westinghouse tower. It then continues to Edgewater Park, stopping at the tunnel connecting between Battery park and the beach. The next stop is at Lake Ave and Desmond Ave - this site is flanked by large swaths of industrial land that could yield a potential redevelopment site and the Edgewater Neighborhood, a stable area. The terminus is the West Blvd. red line stop where one can transfer lines. Option 2 This option is the "shoot for the stars" option. Here, we begin at Tower City, head through Scranton Penninsula where Forest City hopefully one day will build a mega development. It then continues along the hillside behind Riverview Tower where, once the land is stabilized, could spur another mega development along the hillside. This route then continues on the same path as option 1. I know nothing substantial about transportation planning so let me know what you think. Once again, this plan is created with the desire to reduce infrastructure costs by utilizing existing ROWs namely along Route 2 and the existing freight tracks.

Just to be clear, it's more profitable to build on the high end of the market. Snavely will likely be using Low Income Housing Tax Credits (LIHTC) to more easily finance the project. "Affordable" units are rarely ever built out of the kindness of the developers heart. There are lucrative incentives to encourage their creation. Well I wasn't trying to imply that he was doing it out of kindness of his heart, but to show who he was trying to market and that it necessarily wouldn't be a section 8 building. Understood, thanks.

Just to be clear, it's more profitable to build on the high end of the market. Snavely will likely be using Low Income Housing Tax Credits (LIHTC) to more easily finance the project. "Affordable" units are rarely ever built out of the kindness of the developers heart. There are lucrative incentives to encourage their creation.

It was cracking me up too. Imagine logging into a Cleveland.com account with the username "Kenyanidiot."

Aaaaahhhhhhh!! Snavely Group ties up prime Ohio City corners for 240 apartments, other development (gallery) CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A suburban developer is planting a high-profile stake in Ohio City, where a project at West 25th Street and Detroit Avenue could form a new link between downtown Cleveland and the city's West Side. The Snavely Group of Chagrin Falls has lined up deals to buy two key corners of that intersection for a mixed-use, mixed-income development. On the southwest corner, a pair of historic buildings could be renovated for 35 low-income apartments and ground-floor businesses. To the north, on a site that's largely parking lot today, Snavely envisions 205 full-priced apartments and commercial space. The $60 million investment would remake a prominent stretch of road, where more than 30,000 cars and countless buses pass by each day but there's little incentive to pause, to walk or to hop off a bicycle. Snavely's vision also might set the tone for other projects along Detroit, a corridor seeing a surge of interest from apartment developers and other real estate investors. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/12/snavely_group_ties_up_sites_fo.html#incart_river

Nnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Hahah look at the last 6 comments in the thread - the Cinci guys are basically in here arguing by themselves. Oye :-o

Yes, this is still an issue. It is very costly to install bulkheads to make that land usable. Here is some info: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/04/efforts_to_stop_irishtown_bend.html This would likely be an Army Corps of Engineer's job but they don't seem particularly motivated. This worries me: The Corps' August 2009 report laid out several repair options, ranging in cost from $80 million to $219 million. It also noted that no single entity has jurisdiction over the Bend, so no one bears sole responsibility for fixing the stability problem. Several private owners have title to parcels on the hillside; the roadways are the city's; the Cleveland Metropolitan Housing Authority owns the buildings and some land; the pipeline belongs to the sewer district; the Corps maintains the shipping channel; and the section of the river below the Bend is part of the Cleveland Harbor, overseen by the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority. The fact that there is no clear way to fix this is a huge bummer. This could be some of the most expensive/productive real estate in Cleveland. Adjacent to OC and offering river and city views. But alas, it will likely rot away for some time.

Totally honest question with no ulterior agenda: What would make an apartment building gay friendly?

Can you drop a little more information please? Are you able to disclose the general area?