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I don't really understand the station locations. Why stay in Ohio City? Who's their target audience? Honestly Ohio City only needs one or two stations in my opinion. Put another in Tremont, and a few downtown (Public Square, Playhouse Square, East 4th/Gateway, and CSU. Possibly warehouse district. I think a university circle network would work great as well. Wade Oval, Uptown/MOCA, Little Italy, Coventry, and Cedar Fairmount.

Cant they just use the massive parking garage across the street that has an underground tunnel connecting to the building?

I haven't noticed any slow zones on the east side portion yet (when it's actually running!). It does sometimes have a long wait at 55th but most of the time the ride is decently fast. I thought the slow zone was removed with the S-Curve project?

Interesting, although nothing that RTA really needs to be concerned about. Aren't the top speeds around 40 to 50mph? Now it really would be rapid transit if RTA could figure out a way for the Red Line to travel 150+ mph!!! :-D

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^ really? The Red Line always appears to be much slower. Maybe its just the slow acceleration, which may be real, or may just be due to being such a short train.

yeah pretty ugly. Doesn't help the rivers image as being dirty.

^ Chris Ogbonnaya was always solid when we actually used him. Rushing Stats 2013 - 49 att 240 yds 4.9 avg 2011 - 73 att 334 yds 4.6 avg He had some nice long runs as well and was a great receiving option. Sad to see him go. Never really got a good opportunity IMO.

Are they going to do any work on the actual platform? Or atleast clean it up a bit and make it look shiny? Edit: Also will the be demolishing the western entrance? Seems like it would be a good idea to at least keep the stairwell, even if you temporarily close it off.

Where do people think it will extend to? Cleveland Heights, Little Italy, and University Circle kind of act as a wall and block it in.

Chalk that up as another $18.5 million in development spurred by the Healthline!

They didnt post any pictures of the new building.

^ I agree. I don't see a city target downtown anytime in our near future. The population still has a long way to go. Steelyard makes the chances even worse, although it is a plus since a city target probably wasn't going to happen anyways. Atleast core residents still have a target nearby!

Kind of looks like camouflage based on the pictures.

The galleria thread had me thinking... Cleveland really dropped the ball when it came to retail. Tower City and the Galleria both brought national high-end retail chains downtown. Unfortunately Clevelanders decided not to support these shops and the downtown retail scene has yet to recover. If they would have remained, I would imagine downtown would be growing at a much greater pace, and tourism would also be much higher. I would bet that many new shops would have also opened, whether it be in the mall or on the streets. Several stores probably would have also moved out of the malls and onto the streets. It would be interesting to see how different things would be today if these malls didn't fail the way they did. How long till retailers give us another shot? Lets hope this Stark project actually happens and can be the spark downtown needs.

Whats better than a list? Pictures...

Is there anywhere I can find before/after of renovations in OTR? In googlemaps streetview there are a lot of buildings that still need a lot of work in OTR. I assume many have been renovated and thought it would be cool to see what they look like now.

So me suggesting that they address hours at that location is wrong? 1717 is right next door, the 9 project up the street, new housing around Perk Park. Perhaps their business model isn't conducive to a CBD business seeing as they closed the WHD location. :roll: Who's always the first person around here to say, "But were you at the table when the decision was made/do you have experience with this sort of business/do you know what their numbers look like"? I've been in similar businesses in similar situations, these guys know what does and does not make them money. If the traffic is good enough, they will be open later. But by "good enough" that means enough extra business to staff and manage the location for those extra hours. That can be substantial, as they would most likely need to add people to do so. Lower Euclid, Prospect, East 4th, and the Casino is where all the evening activity is. Everything north of Euclid is completely dead during that time. That spot will most likely remain just a business hours spot. Edit:Warehouse District too

^ All is see is the Red Line, in an extremely ugly/hard to see color. The Green and Blue lines arent shown.

^ do the images show up in your trash bin? If so, delete all and you should be good.

^ Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this phoenix coffee talk reminded me that they switched locations on Coventry. The new space is really nice, much better than the previous one.

^ Is there any actual signs outside of Tower City anywhere which acknowledges that their is a rapid station inside? Is there anything that shows there is a mall inside?

Demolish the Renaissance Parking garage and build the transit center there. Fill in the entire lot, build a new garage for the hotel, and provide a direct, indoor connection from the busses to the rail. Best option.

West prospect and Huron are great options to provide access to rail. Greater than the connection you would get at Superior. You could also put bus stops on East Roadway in front of 200 Public Square and the Old Courthouse. More stops can be on West Roadway in front of the parking lot, the Renaissance, and the Horseshoe.