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I had never been inside there before, so I signed up to volunteer for the winter wine and ale fest last night for the sole reason of being able to see the lobby. Wow, what a space.

Makes me even more mad about last weekend. Regardless, let's go PSU!

You're thinking about it the wrong way. I don't want to "force" anybody out of their cars. But I think we should be building our cities in a way that makes denser living and public transit usage more feasible for more people. Also, we should make the costs of driving cars reflect what they really should be and stop subsidizing car use and road building so heavily. I'm not anti-car, but I am for leveling the playing field and building cities that are more sustainable. No, you want to force people to make the decisions that you want them to make. I'm all for density and I love public transit and if we had a better system I would use it more but I will never just choose to get rid of my car. There is a balance. It's not about "making the costs of driving cars reflect what they should be". It SHOULD BE about putting other modes of transportation on a level playing field. You can raise other modes of transportation up without trying to make it so difficult for people to drive cars that they choose not to or (more likely) avoid your area altogether. I know few people who choose not to OWN a car. I know people who choose not to USE a car as much (and I wish we had better and more extensive public transportation so that I didn't have to use my car as much). But I was born and raised in the hood, where not having a car wasn't something that people chose to do willingly and it wasn't a reflection of some conscious Eco-friendly mentality, lol. I'm not riding a bicycle to everywhere and I worked hard every car I've ever had so you'll pry my car keys from my cold dead hands. But again, here is the difference in mentality. I believe it should be about making public transportation a more attractive option, not making car driving a less attractive one (especially when there are a lot more people that feel like me about it and not you) This should be a discussion for another thread. Perhaps here? http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7852.1435.html

The PD finally joined the party RTA board to weigh fare hike, service cuts By James Ewinger, The Plain Dealer Follow on Twitter on November 27, 2015 at 6:21 AM, updated November 27, 2015 at 7:41 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -– RTA board members are expected to discuss a fare hike and service cuts at a committee meeting Tuesday, Dec. 1. No decisions have been made and there will be no vote Dec. 1. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/11/rta_board_to_weigh_fare_hike_s.html

You're thinking about it the wrong way. I don't want to "force" anybody out of their cars. But I think we should be building our cities in a way that makes denser living and public transit usage more feasible for more people. Also, we should make the costs of driving cars reflect what they really should be and stop subsidizing car use and road building so heavily. I'm not anti-car, but I am for leveling the playing field and building cities that are more sustainable.

Yeah, which to crazy to think about. Back in the mid-20th century there were even plans to take down the Soldiers and Sailors Monument because it was too Victorian

Public Meeting on December 10th about proposed elimination of the #21 and #45A and rerouting the #45 Effective: Dec 10, 2015 RTA is seeking comments on a proposal to replace the current routes #21 and #45-45A with a revised route #45. The purpose of this proposal is to improve service along Clark Avenue and West 73rd St. from daytime-only service 5 days a week, to daytime and evening service 7 days a week. If the proposal is implemented, the revised route #45 from downtown would travel west to W 25, south to Clark, west to W 73, south to Denison, and continue via Ridge (comparable to the current route) to Parma Transit Center and Tri-C West, with limited service to North Royalton. Because the #45 would no longer operate on W. 65th St., a public hearing is required before any final decision is made. Public Hearings will take place on Thursday, December 10, 2015 from 4:00-5:00pm and 6:00-7:00pm at Max S. Hayes High School, 2211 W. 65th St., Cleveland, OH 44102 http://www.riderta.com/service-alerts/public-hearing

Zach Reed proposal. Interesting. I've heard rumors that he and Steve Loomis have developed a "conversation" of sorts. Nothing substantiated. Reed and Polensek were the only two who voted for it. If I heard correctly though, the ordinance will still go before full council for a vote

The city council safety committee just voted against allocating $1 million from the rainy day fund for police overtime. http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/CityofCleveland/Home/Government/MayorsOffice/tv20/watch

^ Or just narrow and resurface Superior Ave to make it less hostile and more inviting to pedestrians. That'd be a lot cheaper than a tunnel.

She's a beaut

I was at this meeting and I was so glad that she got up and expressed this. Before she spoke, many of the people were complaining about the high rents at the new development on W 25th and Detroit and were asking how poorer people were supposed to afford to live there. Well, they're not going to be able to. But not every development that gets built is for everyone. I could understand the sentiment more if Cleveland was even remotely close to having problems with "gentrification," but we're not.

^ Right, but the modern zoning code was created in cities that look far different than they do today. There were valid concerns about making sure that toxic factories were not operating next to residential areas. I doubt that the progressives who championed zoning laws at the time would have been in favor of the low-density, sprawled type development that it has evolved to support.

^ I think that's why it's hard to neatly categorize urbanism issues into "right" vs "left."

Yet right-wingers start screaming "communism/socialism" when hearing it. Agenda 21! New World Order!

^ Thus the increased discussion about form based zoning codes

No, you don't find many people advocating the abolition of zoning, but most people I know would support a significant restructuring of zoning codes to make them less restrictive.

This is the same tune that urbanists have been singing for quite some time. It's nothing new.

It's interesting to get some more historical context to the Warehouse District, especially for those of us whose memories do not go back very far. The attached PD article from April 1971 is quite an interesting read about the district. It talks about lack of development on the parking lots, the prospect of the building the Justice Center (they actually thought it would spur development in the neighborhood :|), the founding of the city Landmarks Commission, as well as a proposal about relocating the Greyhound Station to the WHD. Everything is cyclical, huh? "'Cleveland has a great history and tradition and there is no reason why they should not be honored,' said [Councilman John Cimperman]. In the meantime, the Warehouse District remains downtown's gnawing question mark or, as parking lot owner Tom Constantine says, 'Cleveland's sleeping giant.'" Let's hope that, 44 years later, the "sleeping giant" is now actually waking up.

It can be both things and more. Sometimes you need to get in and get out, nothing wrong with that. But there will still be a ton of parking after all this is built. Everybody wins! I disagree. Big picture wise, we all lose with more parking. That's one of my gripes with this proposal-- too much parking!

I've always wondered why I've never seen the tunnels on any of those shows. Seems like they'd be perfect subject matter. Besides your book and website, it's hard to find good, comprehensive info about them. Did Moore indicate what the reasoning for his annoyance is?

Hotels.com: ‘Underrated’ markets see gains November 24 2015 DALLAS, Nov. 19, 2015-- In a constantly evolving tourism industry, new offerings, attractions and experiences are making travelers more apt to explore unique and underrated destinations to satisfy their inner wanderlust. As 2016 rapidly approaches, Hotels.com® is revealing its Top 10 Travel Predictions for the new year through an analysis of travel demand changes over the last two years* on the website. ...The Rust Belt cities have all experienced significant growth in travel demand over the last two years. Cleveland (up more than 70 percent), Detroit (up nearly 70 percent) and Pittsburgh (up more than 60 percent) each benefited from the upswing in visitors, but Buffalo, with the highest increase in demand (over 90 percent) will be the city to watch in 2016. The city is developing its waterfront and Main Street areas and is growing as a foodie destination... http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Article/17155/Hotelscom-Underrated-markets-see-gains

One of the first comments I got when I posted the article on Facebook last week was someone complaining about how much tougher it will be to park downtown now. I was blown away that that was somebody's first reaction to seeing such news.

I've long been intrigued by Cincinnati's subway tunnels and I really want to try to get on one of the tours that the Museum Center conducts. It's hard to find any definitive information online about how to get tickets, so I thought I'd throw that out here to ask for suggestions. Has anyone here done the tour that has a tip on how to best get tickets for the event?

I find Detroit more intriguing than any other city I've ever been to. You should definitely spend more time in the city. Downtown Detroit is really coming along well, and to be fair, many of those pictures of downtown streets were taken during the weekend. It's much busier on the sidewalks during the week. The problem with downtown Detroit is that it's so spread out and segmented by parking lots that it's hard for it to always feel vibrant. My concern moving forward is the huge amount of real estate owned by Bedrock. It's kind of insane when you look at a map of their properties. At the same time, it's hard to criticize that fact though since they are indeed investing so much in the city. I disagree with your comment about Detroit's "boring" residential architecture though. I used to have that opinion, but Detroit has much more varied residential architecture than it gets credit for and much more of it is brick than I expected. There are some beautiful homes and apartment buildings throughout the city. Unfortunately, a lot of it is in real bad shape.