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I'm hoping that these most recent MLB and NFL stadiums have a longer life span than their predecessors. I'm confident that they will indeed last longer as we have seen the oldest ones (i.e. Camden Yards, Progressive Field) undergo big renovations instead of calls for new parks (except for the Braves--I hate them for that). Regardless though, even under the worst case scenario, the riverfront will always be an attractive area moving forward, so it's not like the development will be all for naught. It's not like you guys invested in developments around suburban stadiums out in Butler County or something.

I've always been meaning to go to PJ's, but have never gotten around to it. Looks like I'll have to make a trip in the near future

I hear ya. For me, it's more the fact that Clevelanders have to drive to Sh*tsburgh (and maybe now Columbus) in order to shop there. If people like going to Ikea, I'd rather them be able to do it here than have to travel to another state or city. Point well taken... Can't deny IKEA has some good stuff. And, yes, why should other towns have it while Cleveland's singled out in not having one?... I just wish we could get some of the downtown stores that some of these cities have as well.. I completely agree with that. Yesterday on WCPN Joe Marinucci was talking about how DCA's focus has been primarily on local, independent retailers. He also mentioned how Steelyard Commons is close by for downtown residents that want to go to a big box store. That's all great...unless you live downtown and don't have a car (like me). A trip to the Steelyard Target via the 81 bus can easily be a 2 hour endeavor on the weekend.

Instead of creating a new thread, I thought I'd just update one of my old ones. Here are some shots from my trip down to Cincy this past Saturday. I was amazed at how much OTR has changed since I was last there in 2013. Walking down Vine reminded me of walking down High St in the Short North...or dare I say, like walking down Bleecker St in West Village. Good things are happening in the Queen City.

Wasn't Erieview Tower completed in 1964? The resolution obviously isn't the best, but it does look like the Fountain of Eternal Life is indeed there. There appears to be an object in the middle of Mall A.

Nice 5 lane, one way, road there. Edit: Sorry, didn't mean that to sound snarky. But that angle just really shows you the scale of 2nd St.

Greater Cleve RTA @GCRTA · 16m 16 minutes ago @clevoplanner The square is not scheduled to close on 2/1. As soon the date is official, we will post all reroutes on http://bit.ly/189jINd I suppose that did seem rather odd...that the Square would be closing in five days, yet no announcement from the city and nothing involving RTA.

I hear ya. For me, it's more the fact that Clevelanders have to drive to Sh*tsburgh (and maybe now Columbus) in order to shop there. If people like going to Ikea, I'd rather them be able to do it here than have to travel to another state or city.

"...for RNC construction"?! It's getting a tad annoying how people are making it seem that we're doing this just for the Republicans. Councilman Reed said the same thing at the council meeting tonight. This project was already shooting for a 2015/16 completion date long before the RNC decided to come to town.

Very interesting. Thanks for digging that up, KJP. That all makes more sense now. I had thought the buildings were old, but the pictures from the 1980s make it look like they were mid-century construction, thus why I was confused.

Imagine heading west down Cleveland's main street (aka Euclid Avenue) toward the geographic center of a metropolitan area (aka Public Square) and looking toward buildings straight ahead, that only grow larger the entire time. Then you enter the square with street-level activity in all buildings on all quadrants on the square. The buildings on the northwest corner had bank branches and restaurants on their ground floors, so they produced street-level activity, as did all other buildings on our central commons. Then one day, you make that same trip and all you see is sky ahead of you on Euclid as you enter into Public Square. When you get into Public Square, you realize you can see across two blocks of surface parking lots to short buildings built in the 19th century -- the same kind you might see in downtown Wooster or Zanesvile or Van Wert. It's more than underwhelming. It's a feeling of emptiness and embarrassment. And every time since that first day in 1989 when I saw that scene I feel EXACTLY the same way. I see lots of other great accomplishments here, but that scene entering Public Square erases whatever sense of pride I had. Embarrassing is right. I live on the corner of W 6th and St. Clair and I get no pleasure from the fact that I can see down Euclid Ave from my living room window....not to mention that I have to trudge across acres of parking lots to get to Public Square. It took me a while of searching, but I found this picture from the CSU archives from the 1980s. When were these buildings built? It's hard to find any info on them. http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/ref/collection/herrick/id/466

I was less than 2 years old when those buildings came down. It's sad that I don't have any idea of what a fully enclosed Public Square looks or feels like. I hope that changes soon.

No. Just beer and wine

Ontario and Superior have been closed off to traffic the last couple nights. Looked like crews were doing some kind of utility work. The traffic lights were also turned off.

I also agree. And I had been saying for months that I hope they stay open until at least 10:00 PM (also, like Constantino's). So that's a bit disappointing

C'mon, this is a SFW website, don't drop f-bombs here. If you're that mad, contact RTA.

Kind of sad that the only change to the skyline in those Jacbos Field shots is the signage on top of the buildings.

Doing a Google image search for "Cleveland State Line" gives you some good shots

No, I'm familiar with the CSU line buses. It wasn't articulated.

Got it. Was thinking it was maybe a prototype or something. I know RTA adds new buses regularly, but this was a bus design I had never seen before, and the paint scheme was also different. It reminded me of this WMATA bus below. Wish I got a picture.

Not 100%, but pretty sure they're still there. They're the same light posts that are in the Warehouse District

I saw a new looking bus driving down Euclid the other day with RTA decals on it and the destination sign read "training vehicle." I'm assuming this was one of those new buses? I somehow missed the news about them purchasing new vehicles, so I was confused when I saw the bus on the street.

I just noticed that the sign for the store hours was posted at the entrance. It'll be open 8am-9pm Mon-Sat and 8am-6pm on Sunday

Just as the vast majority of people coming through Hopkins hop on taxis as opposed to the Rapid. This won't be out of the ordinary.

Architectural disjointment (is that a word?) is the same story on pretty much every college campus in America. The brutalist buildings on CSU's campus have now become the minority. CSU's identity is that it is urban and modern, thus I think the current architecture suits that well.