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Like the idea, but isn’t there a risk that the format or requirements of such an arena could change overnight? (I think I remember at UC that they put Ethernet ports along each table in the physics classrooms only to be rendered obsolete by WiFi not long afterwards. Guess the power outlets are still useful though)

Does MEMI still have to do fundraising for the construction costs of the music venue? Will the donors that helped with the Music Hall renovation help with this?

-thread is getting off topic -completely pointless for Rheingeist to merge with Madtree -Madtree not dying -one X factor threat for microbrews is this hard seltzer stuff like White Claw. Exploding in popularity this summer. Not much craft to it so there’s little opportunity for microbreweries to differentiate themselves making their own seltzer brands

A terrible tragedy, but this happened at 3am on a Sunday night/Monday morning... how many “suburban tourists from West Chester and mason” really had to “witness the terror and screams of horror from the violence”?

A few years ago I came up with a concept for “Cinculator” busses connecting Uptown that would be centered around a transit center on a deck over this parking lot exactly where and how this hotel is going to be built. https://cincinnatiideas.com/cinculators/

-looks like no street interaction by the stadium at all except for the staircase -even the team store is separated from Central Parkway by a parking lot squeezed in there -looks like the buildings on the south side of Wade are goners -the website mentions in more the one place that the stadium is “blocks” from OTR and not right across the street from OTR. Makes it seem like they are not familiar with the area -The “fin” concept sort of reminds me of Oculus in NYC

Serious question... With the tax credit fueled movie filming that takes place in Cincinnati is a permanent indoor studio/soundstage the next step?

My prediction is that the vacuum tube will be ditched and the concept will evolve/devolve into a simple dedicated right of way for autonomous vehicles. Whether that will be worthy of being called a “Hyperloop” is up to the marketing guys I guess.

At the meeting when it was first presented, I believe it was Landsman that was trying to get them back in to present an update in like two weeks before the holiday break.

Cool! I hope they’re allowed to do it. I wonder how and when that building lost a floor in the first place?

We’ll see if this sparks a fresh debate. In the past some didn’t like spending money on it since it is a high end amenity for people who are at least rich enough to afford a boat. But there’s probably an economic development case for it (people docking and spending $) plus the intangible benefits (aesthetics, views of boats coming in you could watch from the swings, maybe a site selection exec could be impressed by a cruise starting from here, etc.)

I can go for the first few hours.

Not sure if making W 15th street ped only changes much in the grand scheme of things. If the plan is to do it in order to get rid of the traffic light at Vine, it could actually be detrimental to pedestrians. Unless they just want to move that light up or down on Vine slightly to accommodate new developments on E 15th Street or the Kroger site.

That’s a lot of new apartments for a neighborhood business district that will add density (pedestrians/eyes & ears on the street) and support businesses! Great news for College Hill!

These are great. There’s no program we have that does a better job of facilitating incremental, granular development than these historic tax credits. I wonder if any of these projects also benefited from the removal of parking minimums in OTR.

Aka “Imagination Alley.” During my time there the idea was only to use a portion of it for outdoor dining for Panino. The restaurant could then perhaps help fund the maintenance of the space, for which the cash-strapped CRC is responsible for. Seemed totally reasonable and I strongly disagreed with OTRCC’s opposition it. Don’t know the details of the current plan.

The city or park board (whoever is in charge of it) should develop the Sawyer Point parking lot next door to this on the east side of the purple people bridge. They could dedicate one or two floors to public parking for the park but then have parking for apartments and apartments above that.

Right! How many millions are we spending on this design just to keep that part of the project. Could we avoid moving the substation (maybe ~$10 million) or avoid building a double decker Viaduct (maybe ~$100 million?) And how much would it actually slow a few people down to make a few turns to proceed on to McMillan? 1 or 2 minutes? It’s a cost that if it was actually transferred onto the drivers benefitting they could never pay it. Would “Uptown stakeholders” throw a fit?

True, I used it all the time when I lived in OTR. But in my plan Winchell still exists but the on-ramp is simply moved one block north. I think that’s a good compromise in exchange for having a full highway interchange accessible for the West End there.

Why is the current plan the way it is? Well, engineers start off with requirements. I believe one of the requirements of this project was to maintain a connection to McMillan Street. Once you do away with that requirement, possibilities open up. But the engineers aren't supposed to question the requirements. How much more expensive will this project be because of that requirement?

Current Plan: Plan I created this morning that would be significantly cheaper (using a single deck bridge vs. double deck), minimize demolition including the electric substation, make the interstate interchange usable for the West End as well as the West Side, and free up over 10 acres of urban core land along Central Parkway for development:

Alternatively since the highway exit spits people out over the Viaduct that part of the West End/Brighton doesn’t get any benefit from the highway exit, even though the ramps eat up a lot of land in the neighborhood. I think you could design it so that the exit is local to West End (at Harrison Ave.,) free up the current on-ramp area along Central Parkway, and have a new Viaduct at Harrison Avenue as @jwulsinsuggested on the previous page. All without slowing West Siders down considerably. But I think transportation thinking in our area is lazy and the only metrics of a project like this are increasing throughput and speed of cars. The little spreadsheet that looked at alternatives with the green-yellow-red auto-formatted cells that will drive a hundred million dollar project has already been created and has been sitting in a forgotten network folder for a few years now, with no thought given about the good trade offs that might be able to happen if someone’s existing trip is slowed by 45 seconds.

Have to wonder if the Roebling, which has been closed to motor vehicles for two months, would be able to handle that amount of increased traffic

Also there was talk about future expandability that we haven’t heard anything further on that since the Music Hall noise issue came out. Is this still being designed into the plans? For example the employee lot to the west between the stadium and John Street looks like it could possibly accommodate expansion? That means they would have to break up the circular canopy though.

Well put and I’ll add the following: for a variety of reasons we have forgotten how and do not build buildings that are human scale, have granular footprints, drive and support pedestrian activity, and incorporate elements that add up to “character” anymore. So if these historical buildings are razed wholesale whatever replaces them is likely to feel corporate, generic, and incapable of reinventing itself or providing sustained demand once the newness wears off.