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Looks like the W. 44th & Lorain Ave. project at the SE corner is working its way to reality. YEA!!! The next logical step in improving the W. 44th & Lorain Ave. intersection of OC is for the county and city to move all the services that are currently in the McCafferty Center to a new location, which will allow the NE corner of W. 44th & Lorain Ave to be redeveloped. The McCafferty Health Center has to be at least 40-50 years old; is an eyesore in that area of OC as the building has not been properly maintained, and is in need of replacement imo. I know on this OC thread there has been talk of MetroHealth Medical opening a new facility to serve the area (at Lorain & Fulton Ave.), and if that happens at Lorain & Fulton, or somewhere else in OC, I hope such a project would be held to a higher standard design wise for being in OC.

Having had some encounters with the Coral Group and properties it still owns, and others it has sold off or allowed to go into foreclosure, I will say the Coral Group has a reputation problem in some of the communities it has properties, and personally am not confident of it being the co. developing the Centric project.

Saw this on Cleveland.com today. Another candidate enters the race for Mayor of Cleveland. Former Cleveland mayoral candidate Robert Kilo enters 2017 race In 2009 Robert Kilo challenged Mayor Frank Jackson, finishing third in the primary behind Jackson and current state Rep. Bill Patmon, a Cleveland Democrat. Kilo is circulating petitions as a candidate for mayor. (Chuck Crow, The Plain Dealer) http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/former_cleveland_mayoral_candi.html

I called it the Kimpton in the list.

The Hanna building apts do not face Euclid Ave., they are on E. 12th & Prospect.

I remember reading within the last 12-18 months something put out by the DCA, and if I remember correctly, thry were saying the waiting list for apts downtown were aprprox. 2,000 people. Does anyone else remember reading about this, or if I'm wrong, forgive me.

According to reply #26, I think his question was for Euclid Ave. only. So, if only Euclid Ave from E. 4th to E. 17th were the criteria, how many apts/people would be living on Euclid Ave. Here are the properties to determine that: The Hoyt Apts The Beacon/515 Euclid The Garfield Apts 668 Euclid Ave The Kmipton Hotel/Apts (it faces Euclid Ave) ? The 9 as some of it's apts face Euclid Ave. but I think the apt portion on Euclid Ave is actually a separate building. Don't know the name. 925 Euclid Ave. (not yet under renovation) CAC Apts (currently under renovation) The Statler Arms Apts The just proposed Playhouls Sq Aprts The Edge (student housing for CSU) I would not include because his criteria was only E. 4th to E. 17th. If I missed any, please let all of us know.

^2/3's of the way to the top. Looking good.

^The better question is why so many people are still sold on the 3 amigo's (Jackson, Johnson, Reed)? The same old, same old candidates who have not moved Cleveland forward in ways that truly make a difference to the residents of Cleveland, those that work in the city, and visitors. I will say it again, Cleveland needs fresh new blood, with fresh new ideas to move the city forward; to make it greater than I know it already is. I do not want more of the same old, same old.

And what companies are not on the Fortune list as technically their HQ's are not in OH, but a foreign country, yet they have the revenue to be on the list, and their "HQ" is in OH. Or the company is private, not public? For NEO, I would think Eaton, and American Greetings. Others?

From what I have read he sounds like he believes he was unjustly prosecuted. Yeah. Johnson has never submitted that he was justly convicted. He thinks he was entrapped. I'm not sure I agree, but quite frankly IMO the vast majority of them do what he did. Likewise driving drunk. Historically it was almost considered a political perq. We don't have great choices. On the surface Tony seems to fit my views best, but he has no governmental experience. Jackson's lost touch in a big way. I'm not quite ABJ on reflection, I wouldn't vote for Kucinich, Cimperman, or Calamity Jane. But any of these three are an improvement as long as they don't actually try (hard) to push through the minimum wage increase. That would trash the city, economically. I would agree that the three people most talked about so far (Jackson, Johnson, Reed) all should not be the next mayor of Cleveland. They are all of the same old, same old. Been in politics long enough to have made a difference in changing Cleveland, yet the city continues to loose population, has a failing school system (as a whole), criminals seem to be running some of the neighborhoods, city trash services are deplorable, EMS/Fire/Police are so desperate for new equipment, etc.... Why would the city of Cleveland residents want to have any of these three as mayor is beyond me. I do not think that this election should be about what any of these three candidates has achieved (not much/enough imo), but about what they have not achieved. I want fresh new blood, with new ideas. Preferably a mayor with integrity/honesty/etc..., one who can achieve making Cleveland a clean city, safe city, educated city, and work to bring jobs/jobs/jobs to the city and for its citizens. If a new mayor does just these four things, the spin-off of new housing, office buildings, revived neighborhoods (not just the current ones), I could see happening, and more.

Everyone does deserve a second chance, and more. But at the same time, there are consequences to ones past; and for me I would not take the chance on Jeff. But not knowing enough about Zak and what he has done to win the battle over his alcoholism, I could possibly change my mind on possibly voting for him.

I don't see either of those two supporting Jackson. Reed in particular despises him, I suspect Jeff does too. They'll back the second candidate in part because they see them as more beatable in four years. Plus they are both buddies with Madalone. I think that was a standard shot, the three candidates at the event. Liked his page though, and Jeff's as well. Don't know if Zack has one. I'm leaning towards Jeff for personal reasons but any of the three could convince me. Really! You would vote for a candidate (Jeff) who is a convicted criminal, or (Zak), an alcoholic. How sad for the city of Cleveland.

Jackson's working on it; he's wanting to waste tax payer money on that damn Dirt Bike Park so the biker's/four wheelers have a place to "picnic". So, how will they get to this park if built, ride through the streets of Cleveland, of course. What an idiotic idea. That two plus million dollars Jackson has set aside for this boondoggle of an idea should be spent on other parks in the city with needed improvements.

Or even the Prospect Ave side. Either of these two sites filled in would be a plus for downtown. Both would be even better.

This. I am a cleveland fan and i will watch the browns when they are good...but i honestly wondered what our city would look like if everyone took all that Browns energy and dedicated it to, ya know, something productive for our city. Imagine if everyone in the City stopped drinking alcohol and directed all that energy and money to something productive for our City. Or imagine if everyone did community service around their neighborhoods instead of going to church on Sunday, temple on Saturday, etc. Christians can do community service on Saturday, and attend their service on Sunday. Jews can attend their service on Saturday, and do community service on Sunday. Problem solved. Both can have their souls cleansed, and help clean their neighborhoods too. And by the way, churches and synagogues already do many things that help their communities out. I know the church I attend is always doing service in the local community. Yes, even helping people in the neighborhood with their yard work.

Check out the web site www.freshwatercleveland.com, it has some very useful info that could be helpful in deciding where you would like to plant yourself & family. It also has info on the Arts and Culture in the CLE. From reading your criteria as to what interest you, I would have to agree on what others have already said. If looking for a suburb, Lakewood, or Cleveland Hts., or Shaker Hts. sound like what you may be interested in. If looking to live in the city of CLE proper, the neighborhoods of Edgewater, Detroit-Shoreway (Gordon Square), Tremont, or even University Circle/Little Italy may interest you.

And don't forget dirt bike parks! That's still there, I'm just giving credit where credit is due. I meant it sarcastically. It is a waste of tax payer money, and just one reason to not allow Jackson another term in office.

And don't forget dirt bike parks!

In total agreement. Am not a fan of Jeff Johnson for Mayor, but am when it comes to saving Cleveland's neighborhoods. His thoughts are wrong on downtown though. It's been said many times "where downtown goes, so goes the neighborhoods". Look at what's happening in Downtown and UC. There is definitely outgrowth into the neighborhoods that border downtown and UC. There are great things happening in the neighborhoods, even outside of OC, DS, LI, and Tremont. But it is harder to see the affects when they are spread out over an area of 80 miles in the neighborhoods, vs approximately 2 miles for the downtown area. And the things happening in the neighborhoods are on a much smaller scale; not because the neighborhoods don't deserve the same scale of development as downtown, but because the demographics are not the same.

And why did the Lakefront Outlet Mall get mentioned? The worst project of all.

I've been to many of the Edgewater Live events, and we always park in the BP area. It is an easy walk to Edgewater Park from there through the tunnel. Getting people to park at Edgewater Park, or in one of the parking lots near the heart of W. 65th & Detroit is not going to happen for the businesses that are at/near BP. Why would people want to walk a distance that they do not have too if there is available parking by the establishment they are visiting. It is ones human nature to park near ones destination if possible.

I didn't say it was. Just presenting an idea.

I had the same thoughts as your first paragraph, and would totally be ok with that idea. I am not a fan of the 55PS building, it is not a significant piece of architecture on the CLE skyline, and would not be sorry to see it go. That being said; then build a tower on the Jacobs lot, demolish the 55PS building, and build a new CPHQ in the place of the 55PS.

Transit adjacent doesn't mean transit oriented. The new nursing home by W 117 is merely adjacent, since nursing home residents have limited economic impact and many are unable to leave the premises at all. And of course it's a single-use building. It doesn't interact with the rest of the city any more than any other nursing home does. I recently heard someone say you should avoid nursing homes located on bus lines because that suggests a lower quality of staff. He was wrong; the staff at the other ones just walks further from their bus stops. So the transit-adjacency of this one is at least beneficial for its staff, but that still falls short of TOD. I live right by it and have no reason to visit that building. If I did, security would turn me away. Most of my neighbors don't even know what it is. For pedestrians and transit-users alike, it merely takes up space. Parcels for possible TOD around that station include the self-storage facility to the south and that first few blocks of Madison across from the factory. There's even a vacant lot on the corner of Newman, ready to roll. All of these parcels could benefit from extending the "Birdtown" branding, as could the station itself. RTA calls it "Highland Square" even though that's in Akron. Apfuhousing may be across the street from the W. 117th st rapid, and maybe it was build there as a TOD, but honestly, how many of its residents actually use the RTA? There is a large parking lot build as part of this apt building, so one has to wonder how many of the residents drive rather than use RTA. Also, a nursing home that could be build as a TOD is not necessary a bad idea, or not a TOD. Take for example a 100 bed nursing home, which is the size of the majority of nursing homes. A nursing home with 100 beds would most likely employ 100 people. A 1 to 1 ratio. Now the majority of those employees are low wage earners (STNA's, Laundry workers, dietary workers), and most of these workers usually take public transportation. I know from experience. So a nursing home could be good for public transit. And using the nursing home example, how many of the rest of the employees may choose to also use public transportation, and how about all the visitors of the residents of the nursing home.