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If not Kroger, which I would prefer because I still have brand/state loyalty deep down, but perhaps one of the modified yet smaller 2 story models of Giant Eagle like the one they put in on Main St. in Bexley. As the population grows in this area of town, I think that could be an awesome option perhaps.

I'm pumped for Franklinton, but no offense to that area, they have it "in the bag" at this point. Soooooo much private sector investment and inevitable tax abatement investment that I have zero worries or pity for them. They have a guaranteed beautiful 20 years ahead of them.......but that's just my perspective. Hilltop and Linden still require so much assistance to get a good footing for the future.

Oh I see, I didn't know they already had open air porches at this Casino for smokers. Are the other porches of significant size like 8,000 square feet and include gaming as well?

True, but if I'm reading the information in the article correctly, this "patio" is going to have gaming and slots outside. Likely another beverage/bar station as well. Unless I interpreted that wrong? I'd assume it's also why most Vegas casino's still allow for smoking, at least when I was out there this last summer they still were. I like the idea of an open air patio actually. Caters to what some people want I suppose.

I'm not a smoker, but I will say I feel this is a smart business move on the casino's part. Many of the clientele that a casino attracts are smokers (not trying to be judgmental, just realistic, plus I do enjoy the occasional cigar with my drink haha). This will allow people who would prefer to smoke and spend money on gambling to spend more. I feel, although it's taken a long time, we are getting very close to a hotel or two in the future. One way or another, a hotel will be placed on the large corner lot there at Broad and Georgesville. I also think, especially given the Hollywood theme, a movie theater would do great in this area. There is not one significant movie theater on this side of town, especially since the one and only Regal closed 1-2 years ago. I don't foresee the casino wanting to get involved with a movie theater on their land, as this would detract from their entertainment/purpose, however with the Westland Mall being torn down in the next year, I would think a movie theater in the area and mix used development could be strongly considered. As stalled as this entire area of town has been since the casino was built, I feel this area still has huge potential in the coming years.

Maybe just slap the words "historic" and "bed and breakfast" in the mix and the elitists in this particular bubble of town will warm up to this project? (heavy sarcasm btw)

Man how this overall view is going to change/grow in the coming years. Between filling in these parking lots, some for of Market Tower taking place as well as the new Hilton tower this is going to come to a much more completed look.

Some positive Ohio press..... Reporting an outlook of 33%, Columbus has earned the distinction of being the No. 1 metro area for hiring in the Midwest and No. 2 in the nation. Some 18% of the population works in professional and business services, making that the most popular sector for employment in the city. A hub for small and big businesses alike, the Accelerate Columbus and Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Business Initiative programs have cultivated an entrepreneurial environment, one that has landed Columbus among the Kauffman Foundation’s top metro areas for startups three years in a row. In addition, jobs growth and downtown office incentives have attracted some of the area’s largest employers, among them JPMorgan Chase and Nationwide. The fastest-growing city in the Midwest, Columbus is a microcosm of a larger employment trend that Stull has observed lately. “Companies are moving to where people are, as opposed to people moving to where companies are,” he says. “The Columbuses, the Pittsburghs, the Baltimores are being able to compete with jobs.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/vickyvalet/2019/12/10/where-the-jobs-will-be-in-2020/#63659b515dec

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying, I read it wrong. My bad, all the "combined" lingo at the start of the article threw me off for a second. ? Didn't mean to poke the UO Cleveland Bear ?

So an already fortune 500 company (Cleveland Cliffs) is acquiring AK Steel, which will grow them in size with the merger, but they (Cleveland Cliffs) will still remain and existing fortune 500?

Thank you for clarifying, I didn't realize they didn't own the land. I will say working around/with the rail companies is horrendous. They still have a ton of power and don't budge or coordinate easily with projects. Considering this already oddly shaped piece of property is bound on all sides by rail lines, it's definitely gonna take some creativity in the end to make it happen. I do like how you say a "developer basically playing Sim City" haha seems very spot on lol

I take EVERY proposed project from Schottenstein with a GIGANTIC grain of salt. Of all the developers in town, they are the least reliable in my personal opinion. My guess is they will develop this land someday long down the line, or pawn/sell it off to someone else because they can't get their stuff together to make anything materialize. I will say it is definitely a unique site with some complicated workarounds, however I don't think they are the developer with the skill to make it happen. Again just my opinion, very unreliable and "schotty" track record.

And just before this now is the new Cover MyMeds headquarters rising up. It's finally visible from the highway now as you drive by. When I think what this area looked like just 10 years ago when I moved and lived down here, it's crazy how many more buildings and infill there has been, and only more to come (Chipotle HQ, AC Hotel, Hilton Hotel, Market Tower, etc.....) 670 through this area is being flanked on each side as you drive through, not a bad thing at all IMO.

The thing I like about the Pizzuti property, is mainly it's location. I know much of the initial "buzz" will be more East where CDDC will be building out all the land near the river and museums. You have Casto on the South end of the peninsula, Kauffman with their Gravity on the Northern end and a bunch of NRI owned land in between that inevitably will be developed with time. Pizzuti however starts to push development further West down Broad Street on the other side of 315. That along with Mt. Carmel being torn down in future years and becoming ripe for development as well, I think this area helps propel the momentum more West, which is much needed. I've marked up a map displaying the current standings. (BTW I hate how google earth does not have the updated completed Vets Museum or Dorian park with COSI). I've also marked out in yellow Broad, Sullivant and Souder. I feel Broad will benefit the most obviously from the continual investment going West, however I think there is some trickle down potential for Sullivant to slowly Benefit from Franklinton's cleanup as well. I also think that the parking lots on the North side of Broad across from the current Mt. Carmel site are ripe for future development. Souder acts as such a connector across the river over to Spring street and the future Crew Stadium and Arena District. With Cover My Meds building right off that access road, I only see this street becoming more vital to the area. It will definitely be fun to watch the next 10-20 years as this area really fills in and cleans up.

Such a great photo. Not necessarily the right topic to post this maybe, but this photo should totally be somewhere on the Wikipedia page for Columbus. In fact, the majority of the photos of the Columbus and Short North sub section on Wikipedia are incredibly outdated. I'm not much of a technology guru, but hopefully someone with those skills can make updates at some point.

The people that "assume" are literally just doing that. In my experience, I've found that most people from both coasts, like to poke fun, yet have never been, so it's literally ignorant assumptions. I've lived in Columbus for about 10 years now, and more than half of my close core group of friends came from other states. Houston, San Francisco, and New York City being the 3 main ones. Each admittedly were reluctant when they got assigned to move here for work, and in their mind looked at it as temporary. Very quickly however, they ended up loving it and decided to set down legit roots here, building homes in the greater Short North area as well as getting married and starting families here. Further more, given how much they have traveled and lived around the United States prior to this, they have plenty of friends that have visited from all over. Every time we have first time visitors from Austin, Seattle, Dallas, NYC, etc......at first they are like "why am I going to visit Columbus?"........and each time the same unexpected outcome be-founds them and they end up loving it here. They are surprised by the size and amenities that are here, and have all ended up repeat visitors every year!! I guess what I'm getting at, is that Columbus, and all of Ohio for that matter does have a lot to be proud of, and we shouldn't let ill-informed comments or opinions from people who have never actually spent time here affect us. They can live in their over priced coastal bubbles for all I care. They act so cultured and cosmopolitan, yet most of them are scared to leave and see the rest of the country.

The speculation is neat to ponder, but my guess is they are legit trying to bring on more Class A office space even if it's vacant for a bit to grow into. Last report I saw, and it was from 3rd Quarter Office Trends Report by Colliers, was that Columbus had dipped down to 8.91% vacancy rate downtown, which from what I understand is indication they could start building more to offer. Similarly the Q3 Cleveland report has them sitting at a 13.1% vacancy. With Columbus falling below the 10% threshold, there is definitely demand for more office space to come online in the future. This is a great opportunity to introduce this into the market. (yeah I know we all want super tall sometimes, but infill and walkability is great, I can't tell you how much infill has happened in the 10 years I've lived here now and the vibe at street level is great!!!)

Just as a little preview of what we might be able to expect. I mean, I'll take this model well over the usual Dollar General store. It's a start and at least will provide basic needs to the area I suppose. I'm sure the prices are much better of course than the CVS a few blocks away at High and Main.

It's probably all a matter of opinion of course, (and I know off topic) but sometimes I hate how much cities, particularly in the mid-west plaster their skyscrapers with signage and branding. Take a look at Houston, Dallas, Atlanta etc.....they don't do this (for the most part) and I almost feel like it adds some class and tastefulness to their skyline view. But that's just me.

I could be completely wrong, but I thought Grandview imposed a height restriction on this development? Again I could be wrong, but I swear I read something of that nature years ago when this was all beginning to develop.

Haha, I'm not sure we will ever get a full on subway but I agree, transit upgrades are a must in the future. But additional sewer and utility infrastructure is very much needed if we are going to grow and grow well.

From my understanding, as large as this project was, it was only to "catch up" to what was already so far behind, it still is not large enough to take on the size of projects we would like. This project was to take on the overflowing sewage that was going into the Scioto River. If you've ever taken a walk through Victorian Village, Short North, Italian Village, etc......I'm sure you've smelled the massive amounts of sewer gas. It's not as frequent as it used to be but still exists. This project was to help eliminate that. As my friend called it once, it was a giant "sniffer". haha

Of my friends who work in the biz, sewer and sanitation lines have been a huge draw back, if not the largest. Half of the projects that have been approved have had to take on their own ability to build in retainer sanitation options within their building, more than normal, simply because Columbus's system would get backed up and cannot handle the influx. This is becoming embarrassing in my opinion that we are falling so far behind at this point. We all want larger buildings and projects to be proud of and enhance our city, and people see a shiny new rendering and get all excited, but the reality is there is so much impact buildings of that size impose to our systems, and we are seriously ill-equipped to take on the extra load right now. I'm a huge huge huge champion and defender of Columbus and want the best for our city, but the more inside information I get the more frustrated I am with lack of sight for the future, mostly from the lack and delay in infrastructure investment. Lets not forget most things in the last decade or more were taxed abated so there's not much money coming in to help anyways. I think many people focus on the "pretty" aspect of skyscrapers however fail to actually understand the level of "hidden" and messy infrastructure that needs to occur behind the shiny glass curtain.

I actually really like this plaza area. As big as it is, it actually is quite narrow/long. If you were to build a building between William Green, Plaza 3 and Plaza 1 it would be so overly close to each other I don't think it would add any value or enhancement even to the skyline. If anything it would block some of the views of these buildings already in place. That being said, Nationwide did swiftly and relatively quietly purchased the now 120 year old "office" building over on East Spring Street surrounded by surface parking back in 2016 and has just been sitting on this. It is around the corner from their other skyscrapers. I've always though it would be awesome location if they would build a new skyscraper on that land in preparation for their 100 year anniversary in 2026 to reaffirm their commitment to Columbus and downtown like they did when they ventured away from the booming capital square trend in the 1970's and "risked" building and investing next to the abandoned train yards, prison and crime ridden Short North. Just a thought I've pondered, no merit or valid rumors of this by any means.

I will admittedly get frustration at the "downsizing" or scaling back of many projects and lack of size from time to time. I feel most people in any city that have pride where they live will agree with that sentiment. When all the stats point to a booming city, which it is, it can be frustrating to see the developments not keep pace with what is warranted. That being said, I have a few friends, who have lived here their whole lives, and worked in construction and utilities industries very high up, and I've been told repeatedly that the INFRASTRUCTURE needed, much of which is underground, is very much lacking and far behind what is required to build big. And yes, I think much of this blame can be put on the city to a degree. They have kicked the can down the road in so many departments and now are not prepared for what should be a proud and exciting boom for this city. The key word here is INFRASTRUCTURE, and how this city has not kept up or prepared for this in any way.