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I don't think you're far off, more than likely a restaurant or event space.

About time!!

??? Has GOT to be a typo because at that price, good luck! That's almost double what the mortgage would be on a new build at the Jeffrey and 1,000 less sqft. Their website says $3,300 I think. Was looking at it the other day. And they had a cheaper option I thought. *Edit. They do have a two bedroom for $4,450. Not sure why it's so much more than the $3,300 two bedroom. I had to see for myself and my guess would be penthouse and that those are VERY limited like maybe 2-4 units in total.

??? Has GOT to be a typo because at that price, good luck! That's almost double what the mortgage would be on a new build at the Jeffrey and 1,000 less sqft.

I still wouldn't be shocked if they use one mainly because of how tight and expansive the site is at the same time. The layout is actually similar to the High & Lane development and that got one.

A little add-on to show those skeptical folks that we have a ton of growth going on in our city ;)

Sidewalk/site prep work is being done on the east side of Yard St. and the building going up looks much larger than I expected.

Why do you think urban neighborhoods should be built for suburbanites? That is my first question. There are park and rides all over the city, and taxis and ubers. If suburbanites really wanted to come to the Short North, they can, even without endless parking options. And why would you plan infrastructure in the city around an occasional visitor rather than people who actually live and work there? It's just incorrect to think that a popular, dense urban neighborhood can also have abundant, easy and cheap parking. It's just not going to happen, and trying to build with that expectation is only going to make the neighborhood have a bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve. The Short North doesn't need more infrastructure for more cars that will only lead to yet more traffic. It needs people to use every other means- walking, biking, taxis, buses. Not everyone is going to like that, but they can go to Hilliard-Rome Road if they need a free parking lot in front of everywhere they want to go. Just because they live in the burbs doesn't mean they don't want to come to work or play. The lot there isn't free as is and I never suggested the one there be free. Parking is going to be very limited here shortly and that is going to effect the businesses in the area and that's who I'm looking out for in my argument. What I am saying is a train, bike, bus or Uber does not work for everyone and we do have to think of those folks because they are important to our neighborhoods businesses. Regardless of what you may be assuming there is a NEED for parking in the area which is why I suggested it. Whether it be for workers or patrons, suburbanites or out of towners, there is a need for a structure in that area as it continues to grow. During the parking summit meeting on Saturday the director of parking suggested a park and ride for workers in the short north. Most people are not going to take an Uber to work, a bus or bike weather permitting would be a viable option, but again not for everyone. The cost of rent and ownership in the areas that are close and even on a bus line is another. That suggests a need and I will continue if needed.

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"? https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians. The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson. You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples. The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures. What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's. It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo. This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park. It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood. A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point. But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon. This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine. The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it). There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings. Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well. It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better. You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan. Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage. We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion. Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons. There is virtually no future for the Short North in which parking is going to become any easier than it is right now, not without massive investment in public transit. No doubt the developer that would build it would make money on it, but that's not really the point. You're not going to build the neighborhood out of the parking problem by adding more car-centric infrastructure. It doesn't work. It just promotes more driving. And it still wouldn't be allowed to happen directly on High even if someone was proposing it. Ok well then what do you suggest? It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future. Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town. A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either. A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"? https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians. The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson. You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples. The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures. What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's. It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo. This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park. It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood. A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point. But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon. This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine. The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it). There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings. Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well. It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better. You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan. Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage. We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion. Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons. What about the lot(and the two homes) along Mt. Pleasant between 2nd and 3rd? that would fit a 125 by 200 foot garage. Four floors with a fifth on the roof would allow about 250 vehicles, another 50 with one level below ground. It would block the views of some of those apartment to the east but would have enough room to not be right against them. And the other side is basically parking. There are little underutilized areas here and there where they should definitely put in public parking, and do it now before it is too late. Not necessarily on High but close enough to it. And they need to relocate North Central or whatever it is at 1301 North High. There is no reason it has to be there, and that land is too valuable right on High and right across from a grocery store. Outside of tearing down the homes on 3rd that wouldn't be a terrible idea. The other option is the post office on 4th, you could do ground floor retail(a replacement for the post office) and apartments lining Mt. Pleasant like they did at the Hub and plan on doing with the 711 N High phase two garage.

To find a home in that price range, in an area that is not Linden or the Hilltop is nearly impossible in Columbus. For comparisons sake I looked at a bungalow that was in Grandview $400k+ and the same house in Rocky River(similar suburb on Cleveland's West Side) $285k; both were practically identical as far as updates are concerned. I personally want to live in Columbus for the taxes but even those are getting way out of wack depending on where you're looking. Homes that were selling as "starters" in the $185-225k range 5-10 years ago are now $250-300k+ in Columbus.

The three you mentioned in your response are too far for the businesses that I'm focusing on, but yes they have relieved the issues in the southern end of Short North. I'm more concerned with parking for business and how that impacts the neighborhoods. A garage is needed in the northern section, whether it be for the new food hall, Skully's, BrewDog or even Condado in that area. Also this would take care of another seemingly useless flat parking lot. A garage would make more sense in this area as it continues to grow.

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"? https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians. The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson. You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples. The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures. What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's. It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo. This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park. It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood. A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point. But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon. This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine. The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it). There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings. Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well. It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better. You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan. Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage. We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion. Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons.

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"? https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians. The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson. You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples. The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures. What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's. It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo. This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park. It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood.

Ummm the Scioto Peninsula says hello... They stated they need the 600,000 square feet almost immediately, not after two or three years of construction. So there is 600,000 square feet of office space just sitting there on the Scioto Peninsula? Well Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Peppers! I had no idea!!! lol ;) *the Scioto Peninsula (and parts of East Franklinton) would be great...for new buildings. Where is that office space they will need right away? Won't matter really since we won't get it ...just sayin'. Last I checked they weren't opening tomorrow... just sayin' This is what the RFD stated: "Initial Square Foot Requirement 500,000+ Sq. Ft. Phase I (2019)" So we are going to have half a million square feet available on the Scioto Peninsula in 2019? Really? Unless of course they can work around this...along with our transit issues and all of the other things they are asking for that we lack. I am rooting for (surprisingly enough) Atlanta. After that Chicago or one of the sites in the BosWash corridor. I would love it here but at the same time I'm nervous. If it happens by 2019 I would be surprised, I'd imagine that they would do it in phases regardless of where they're at. They could put some in the vacant buildings in Dublin and some of the open space in downtown until Scioto Peninsula came online. I am just waiting on my $100.00 payoff!!! lol ') I am NOT going to be eating a Kroger Bag. *I suppose they could also cobble together some downtown properties to get the half a million square feet sometime before the end of 2019 to be honest. I really am just sick of the whole thing and want one of the other cities to just get it and have it over with. Then we can learn from the experience and focus on getting other companies in (Amazon is not the only company in the World now is it?). Well we both can agree that we're over it and would just like to know one way or the other. And you're right Amazon isn't the end all be all, but it would be cool for our city to finally get the national and international attention that it deserves.

I have to believe that strip mall will be gone within the next few years. With almost every surface lot being gobbled up, I would imagine the strip mall and the old Dollar General (or Family Dollar or Dollar Tree or whatever it was) will be bought up and redeveloped soon. The strip mall is owned by the Wood Cos and is slated to be a twin of the Northstar-topped building. My guess is once phase two of the 711 project, Hubbard Park Place and the Brunner Building is finished(finally) that they will start or announce plans for the plaza. The former Family Dollar is owned by a suburban strip mall company based on Henderson Road. The store was shut down as part of a buyout by Dollar General, the future of that property is up in the air. There are a ton of things on the board for the Short North currently, I'll be attending the meeting on Thursday and can hopefully provide some updates.

I agree with the last part and why I don't think it works without just being a simple connector to the airport or Easton. If you asked folks in Dublin they wouldn't be in favor IMO. Idk what it would do for places like Linden, South Side or even the Hilltop and for the investment I think it could be spent better elsewhere. We're a very walkable city where we need to be and where our tourism comes into place. The parking meeting yesterday morning really opened my eyes to a lot of things, we do need more transit options but folks from the suburbs aren't going to come visit friends on a train IMO. Uber, Lyft are much better options for those few times a year they come to see us urbanites.

Ummm the Scioto Peninsula says hello... They stated they need the 600,000 square feet almost immediately, not after two or three years of construction. So there is 600,000 square feet of office space just sitting there on the Scioto Peninsula? Well Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Peppers! I had no idea!!! lol ;) *the Scioto Peninsula (and parts of East Franklinton) would be great...for new buildings. Where is that office space they will need right away? Won't matter really since we won't get it ...just sayin'. Last I checked they weren't opening tomorrow... just sayin' This is what the RFD stated: "Initial Square Foot Requirement 500,000+ Sq. Ft. Phase I (2019)" So we are going to have half a million square feet available on the Scioto Peninsula in 2019? Really? Unless of course they can work around this...along with our transit issues and all of the other things they are asking for that we lack. I am rooting for (surprisingly enough) Atlanta. After that Chicago or one of the sites in the BosWash corridor. I would love it here but at the same time I'm nervous. If it happens by 2019 I would be surprised, I'd imagine that they would do it in phases regardless of where they're at. They could put some in the vacant buildings in Dublin and some of the open space in downtown until Scioto Peninsula came online.

It's hard to do a comparison to a city like Dallas versus Columbus. We're an older town, but unique in that we have infill opportunities and open land still within the city limits unlike cities like Cincinnati, Cleveland and Detroit. Those cities were built out when "white flight" occurred and don't have that open land. They're also historically industrial communities where Columbus really wasn't "known" for anything. Cincinnati had its food processing and livestock trade, which brought spinoff industries. Cleveland and Detroit had heavy industry and shipping. Columbus had large swaths of land and farms until very recently within actual city limits. Getting back to my point is that you've seen the larger developments here that you see in places Plano. Dublin has Bridge Street, Westerville has the Altair area with hotels and office developments, New Albany has their "uptown" which is more like something you would see in the Northern Indy suburbs. If you include that I would say Hilliard, Grove City and Gahanna are all similar in the midwest versions of a Plano/McKinney developments. That is what I think is so unique about central Ohio is that we're growing similar(with the infill development) to several different areas and with Easton, German Village and the Arena District have inspired growth elsewhere.

Ok but again, do we really need it? People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project. Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town. We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good! Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness. Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG! What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser. This I am still confused about, do you suggest that we make it a toll road? I pay taxes and I hope that's what some of that money is going towards is maintaining the roads so I can get back and forth to conduct business. Do you see where I'm going with this "our economy" thing? My economy and yours may be very different. What's good for you may be bad for me. The taxes you pay don't remotely cover the cost of the roads you use. If you can't pay for your own transportation, you'll have to adjust. I'm sick of subsidizing you. Why should the sales tax I pay on a dinner in Short North be spent on an expressway I never use? Explain to me your economy then? Do you never leave your home? Walk on a sidewalk? Ride a bus? Leave the city at all? Come to the city at all? DO SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST TROLL!

I think peoples' issues aren't with the height itself, it's that this height is not on High St and is set back. Now you can argue the Park St. development(which I hated initially and now love) is showing us this can be done properly. However it's nearly half it's height. If this building was going on the plot of land where the Wood Cos plaza sits then I would have ZERO issues with it. However it's sitting in-between one VERY narrow residential street and one "normal" sized residential street. Access is the main issue I have with this because it is going to lead to more and more congestion. I am and I encourage folks that live in the neighborhood to attend the parking meeting tomorrow morning or Thursday to voice your opinions.

Both Canal and Groveport have nice little downtown areas. Canal has a bit more in terms of little shops and restaurants though. I think Canal is a very underrated part of the Columbus area. We're way off topic but I agree, both of their downtowns are nice. Little Italy in Groveport is a nice little secret of mine, I sneak down there a couple times a year. Also think downtown Canal is great with the folks that live there currently!

Ok but again, do we really need it? People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project. Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town. We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good! Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness. Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG! What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser. This I am still confused about, do you suggest that we make it a toll road? I pay taxes and I hope that's what some of that money is going towards is maintaining the roads so I can get back and forth to conduct business. Do you see where I'm going with this "our economy" thing?

When is the last time you were downtown? Not everyone wants to live in the city and even those that do won't ALL want to take public transportation. I was downtown on Saturday. If you don't want to live somewhere, don't live there. Roads ARE "public transportation." They are paid for and owned by government and are for transportation. If you don't like that, don't use them. After reading your original response again I realized that I mispoke when responding. I am pro-road and pro-connector rail in limited amounts. However our downtown is doing a great job at infilling a lot of those parking lots; I saw that part and it sparked my rash response.

I have not but in saying that I'm not surprised. Even with the current conditions they're easier to get to than Grove City. Also Groveport's new high school is only going to help. Hamilton Schools are also booming with all the warehouses bringing in the tax dollars. Modest homes can still be had there, but a new development by Butler Homes starts in the mid $200s. Wouldn't be surprised to see Lockbourne Rd get an exit off 270 in the future. The space between High St and Alum Creek Drive is much too far for access purposes. As far as 33; it needs a total overhaul from 70 to the Lancaster bypass. Three lanes are necessary. Getting rid of the light off of 70 is necessary. At least two exit lanes from 70 is necessary. Getting rid of the cloverleaf interchange at 270 is necessary. Removing access to/from side roads such as Bixby, Rager, Bowen, and Pickerington is necessary. Canal Winchester has high taxes and I've been seeing many high-end homes being built, even in the Lithopolis area. If 33 got a proper overhaul, I see no reason this area couldn't be as affluent as the north side of the metro. Not far as the crow flies from downtown, great access to the best recreation in the metro, and near tons of modest-to-high-paying blue collar jobs. What they did down in Carroll was/is great and much needed!