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I'm very happy that this project is being proposed and will hopefully become a great addition to the skyline. East Pete Rose Way and Eggleston can easily hold a dozen buildings of this size. However, I worry that this one, and maybe others, won't really add to the urban fabric / culture of downtown. What I mean is that I really don't see people who live here walking to the get places. I work right next to this location, and live in OTR, and walk to work every day. It's a doable, but solid 22 minute commute. Maybe 7 on a bike. I highly doubt that the average resident of this building will be willing to do that. What's the difference, then, of living downtown and driving to Senate, vs living anywhere else and driving in? Look at One Lytle. It has a private shuttle service that I've seen people use to get dropped on at Atrium 2 on 4th Street in the mornings. I see this new building operating in much the same way.

I agree. Sounds like the north mural's building will come down anyways.

Also worth noting that the north tower (phase 1) would most likely remove from view two murals that are currently there. Hopefully they could be preserved for viewing from inside the building

Hmm according to page 178, and the drawings on the following pages, there is no built-in parking. But later in the packet it mentions the 2 levels.

!!!! It sounds from the packet that there will be no "long term" parking on-site, but instead people will park at the Olympic garage on 7th.

Urban Sites' new apartments at 12th & Main will be available soon. At least one of them is $2/ square foot. http://urbansites.com/apartments/

^Ha! That's a nice wish, that the building would be built in a some sort of form resembling an urban format. Hell will freeze over before the city insists on that.

it would be close, I bet. Weird that a larger portion favor a larger tax increase. I seem to remember someone (Chris Wetterich? Jake Mecklenborg?) muse about the idea of tying a county wide increase with a decrease in the portion of Cincinnati's earnings tax which pays for metro. Seems like that would be a boost for cincinnati residents (though maybe something for county opponents to carp on...) What're everyone's thoughts on an iron-clad agreement that the tax money would not go toward the streetcar?

I agree that it looks strangely small on its lot (not to mention taking up a very small amount of the lot to begin with). I'm really questioning the lack of windows on the south side of the building. Granted it faces a much taller building, but that is the best way to get more light in the evenings. Plus it'll be a very noticeable blank wall for anyone walking by, since it's over a driveway.

Barcelona is amazing. Great food, culture, weather, and transportation. Plus the catalan chip-on-the-shoulder is perfectly suited for a midwesterner from Ohio.

I live in an old apartment in over the rhine, with an old chambers stove from the 50s. If I were looking for an apartment, I would probably pass on a place that didn't have an oven. However, I also have a dishwasher, which I exclusively use as a drying rack after I've hand-washed my dishes. So that I could do without, which would have freed up more space for cabinets.

I heard last night that someone had recently bought the land, too. Don't know who though. What is SSP?

We live in a world where revenue of $26.2 billion just isn't good enough any more... because it is below the expectation of $26.3 billion. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/03/03/kroger-s-stock-gets-slammed-after-earnings-report.html

There's also New York, where upstate politicians routinely demand "parity" in transportation spending between the City and everything north of around Poughkeepsie. As if $2 billion in New York and $2 billion in Buffalo were even remotely the same thing.

I'd say it's all about priorities. Ohio as a state is happy to spend gobs of money on roads (see Portsmouth bypass) in every part of the state. What about Pennsylvania with Philly and Pittsburgh, and then Erie, Scranton, Reading, and a couple others? If anything, I'd assume that the larger the portion of a state's population that resided in "urban" areas would make the state more inclined to support mass transit. Ohio seems to have tied itself to rabid suburban and exurban interests, though.

hmm thanks.

Jake do you have any more info on that proposed bridge? drawings, website mentions, etc?

Regarding the "spill-over" into other closer-in neighborhoods due to rising prices in over-the-rhine, I wonder what role transportation will have in helping or hindering their development. By comparison, my girlfriend lives in Bushwick, Brooklyn, which until recently was exclusively a low income, minority neighborhood with an industrial wasteland flavor. However, it is well connected to Manhattan via the L subway, with direct connections to subways servicing lower manhattan and both upper west and east sides. in other words, it already has good transportation infrastructure and connection to the jobs centers. Everything in Cincinnati begins and ends with parking, at least for now. It seems to me that the neighborhoods we're discussing don't have the transportation infrastructure to handle a large influx of people. Metro is too infrequent. There aren't large garages to act as catch basins a la Mercer. And furthermore the city insists on maintaining antiquated minimum parking requirements. So unlike northern Brooklyn, our old, close-in neighborhoods can't readily accept a large influx of residents and visitors, without a huge capital cost of garages (boo) or increased bus service (unlikely to happen).

^^ I've come to this realization within the past week, too. Even just the "station" part of the development is about equal to all the land bounded by Markbreit, Edwards, and the RR tracks. So much potential for quiet streets with new single family homes and maybe 4 story apartment buildings fronting Madison. This city sure knows how to take a great opportunity and make the least of it. Makes me want to move to Toronto.

Jake if I remember correctly the St Bernard stop was changed from a subway to out in the open to save cost, no? Would it have basically been in an open ditch with a stand alone structure for a roof? Sorry this is getting off topic.

There's movement on either of these ideas? Outside of UO?

My preference is a double-decked S curve that goes over W 3rd and Freeman to reconnect just south of Ezzard Charles.

Even more awful once you consider that everything in this picture used to look like over-the-rhine. we've done a really good job of forgetting that this mess wasn't built on a greenfield, but rests on the homes and businesses of previous generations.

maybe they've seen the light and are going back to the drawing / design board.

I't s great that a niche retail store is setting up shop there. Will add a different kind of foot traffic to the area.