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Indians winning 18 in a row? A crane downtown for a new apartments (which will be seen from the Jake come October)? We are truly witnessing history. Can't wait to see some filling in of the skyline between Public Square and East 9th.

This is more of an intangible aspect of the discussion, but this is the most attention I have scene the Indians get among the younger audience/fan base (those who don't remember the 97 World Series). We kept hearing how great the 90's were, and how they sold out 455 straight, and how great it was to be a Tribe fan then. Its fine to acknowledge how great Cleveland and the Tribe had it, but it also came with an attitude of it won't be like that again. It was an almost underlying sense of defeat. This could be attributed to many things that often circle around the often debated/discussed topic of Cleveland's self image. Now, finally there is a mindset that we are and will be great again (the Tribe and Cleveland). The change in attitude regarding the city, and its sports teams, has propelled younger generations to follow the Tribe in ways and at rates I haven't scene before. People rep Cleveland proudly like I haven't scene before. You can feel the civic and team pride when talking with someone about Cleveland (this is my personal observation though). Bottom line is that older Tribe fans (and many Clevelanders as well) need to stop being so dam negative. It has driven away future fans, only exacerbating the problem. The narrative is changing now though, so lets not try and drag it back to where it once was. Maybe our optimism is unfounded, and ultimately foolish, but defending this city and it teams (and all the baggage that goes along with it) to older generations or outsiders it tiring. Breaking down the old Cleveland archetype is one of the best things people can do for this city and its teams. TL;DR - Stay positive, its what the Tribe and this city needs! I apologize for my rant. Cookie is throwing against the Kitties tonight. He is 2-0 with an .78 ERA over the last three starts. Lets keep the streak going! ROLL TRIBE!

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWINDIANS!!! This is truly amazing. 1 ahead of Houston, and 5 back from Los Angeles. I never thought we would get close to either of these teams. A first round against the wild card (possibly Minnesota?) would be great as we watch Boston and Houston duke it out at the 2 and 3 seeds. Also they end their regular seasons playing each other in a four game series (possibly 9 games in a row against each other). If we can make our way to the WS again, our record actually matters now as well thanks to the rule change. Keep it up Tribe! /\ Lets not drag this historic moment down with even more attendance talk (which has drastically improved and will continue to do so) with very high local TV ratings (7.52 on the Neilson). http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/07/17/Media/MLB-ratings.aspx Anecdotally, my dorm floor (OSU) showed a lot more interested in the Tribe game/win streak than the Browns game today (a lot of Cleveland faithful here).

This chart compares TV Market Sizes with the number of pro sports team (in the "big 4") to find an "Ideal Number of Teams." Cleveland, the 19th largest media market, should ideally have 2.5 teams according to their findings. However, in the 18 larger media markets, only seven (NYC, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, Houston, Seattle, Orlando), are undeserved, in that the Ideal Number of Teams is greater than the number of teams present. (I disregarded LA's figure as they have gained 2 NFL teams, getting them slightly over the ideal number of teams) TL;DR - Cleveland is not very abnormal in its teams to media market size ratio. (Ideally 2.5 teams) http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-some-us-cities-may-have-too-many-pro-sports-teams-2013-11 With that being said, retaining the three teams we currently have cannot be done without maintaining what leagues (and other cities) deem to be suitable facilities. After the renovation of the Q, we've got a good bit of time (20+ years?) before relocation should be of any concern to us. There are many other teams that are facing the threat of relocation before ours, such as the Athletics, Hurricanes, Rays, Jaguars and Coyotes. After the NFL's particularly egregious relocation spree, league expansions may be the future. This is scene in the rapidly growing MLS and to a lesser extent the NHL.

It will be on the Oval as well, a significant improvement from its location at the last OSU hosted game day near the RPAC (just south of the shoe). The picture attached is the current setup from earlier this morning looking west towards Thompson Library.

In regards to hockey at the Q, Cleveland has been very supportive of the Monsters as there attendance has grown steadily (at a rate of ~340 per year) to a 9,055 average last season, second only to the Hershey (Harrisburg) Bears who only lead the Monsters by an average of ~250 more people per game. 9,055 is pretty good considering the NHL lowest average attendance is 11,776 in North Carolina (there is usually a couple of NHL teams a year in the 11,000-14,000 range). Cleveland won't have an NHL team though, partly because the 4 major metros within a 3 hour drive of Cleveland all have NHL teams, the only big 5 pro sports league that has teams in all those cities. That is fine though as the Monsters have found their place in one of the best hockey arenas I have ever been to (one that would be in the top 5 in capacity if it where to be in the NHL). Being in an arena like the Q (even before the new renovations) for a hockey game feels like an NHL caliber experience. In regards to history, a hockey team has played in Cleveland at some level since 1929, except between 1978 and 1992 (a period when Cleveland had an interesting fascination with indoor soccer). Hockey has an important place in Cleveland sports history, and will continue to be well supported for its level of play. http://www.cleveland.com/monsters/index.ssf/2016/05/lake_erie_monsters_add_to_clev.html

Even though I think the current state of the Q is great, we should put it in context with the rest of the NBA. It is the SEVENTH oldest NBA arena. Of the six older arenas 2, Oracle Arena in Oakland and Bradley Center in Milwaukee, are being replaced by new stadiums currently under construction in the those markets. 2 other older arenas, Target Center in Minneapolis and Vivint Smart Home Arena in Salt Lake City, are warping up $100 million+ stadium renovations this year. Madison Square Garden also underwent a billion dollar renovation a couple of years ago. This leaves Talking Stick Resort Arena in Phoenix as the only older stadium than the Q that is not currently being renovated or replaced. The Suns are pushing the city for a NEW venue, claiming their current facility, which is only two years older than the Q, is outdated.

Those interested in examining these divisions in the US, or Ohio, should consider reading Colin Woodard's book American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America. It talks about the Western Reserve, or the predominantly New England/Yankee settled NE Ohio a few times, while describing the "Wars for the West." "Nineteenth-century visitors often remarked on the difference between the areas north and south of the old National Road, an early highway that bisected Ohio and which is now called U.S. 40. North of the road, houses were said to be substantial and well maintained, with well-fed livestock outside and literate, well-schooled inhabitants within. Village greens, white church steeples, town hall belfries, and green-shuttered houses were the norm. South of the road, farm buildings were unpainted, the people were poorer and less educated, and the better homes were built with brick in Greco-Roman style. “As you travel north across Ohio,” Ohio State University dean Harlan Hatcher wrote in 1945, “you feel that you have been transported from Virginia into Connecticut.” There were exceptions (Yankees skipped over the marshlands of Indiana and northeastern Ohio en route to Michigan and Illinois), and between Appalachian “Virginia” and Yankee “Connecticut” one passed through a Midland transition zone. But the general observation holds true: the place we call “the Midwest” is actually divided into east-west cultural bands running all the way out to the Mississippi River and beyond. Foreign immigrants to the Midwest often chose where to settle based on their degree of affinity or hostility to the dominant culture, and vice versa. The first major wave was German, and, not surprisingly, many of them joined their countrymen in the Midlands. Those who did not faced a choice between the Yankees and the Appalachian folk; few opted to settle in areas controlled by the latter." (Pg. 178) Both of these maps are exerts from the book.

There are only TWO commuter oriented/urban aerial tramways in the US that I know of. The Portland Ariel Tram goes up a large hill, connecting the Oregon Health & Science University to a new, dense residential district. Roosevelt Island Tramway was built to form the only connection between Roosevelt Island and Manhattan over the East River. (it was built 13 years before the F train stop was) These where built because of geographical restraints, and accommodated areas that would create high ridership. The only geographical restraint that Cleveland has would be the the river/flats. The Red Line already bridges this though, and if any other transit project are built over the river, it should be under the Detroit-Superior bridge.

I believe this is the current plan. The "express" lanes will go from the I271-I480 merge in Oakwood, under the Broadway-Forbes interchange. All lanes will then merge to form one of two 5 lane wide segments until the I271-I480 split at Rockside. (3 lanes for 271 until the 422 interchange, 2 lanes for 480) https://www.dot.state.oh.us/engineering/OTEC/2015_OTEC_Presentations/Tuesday_Oct.27/05/Wildeman_Shaner_05_V4.pdf

Ohio City apartment proposal would fill gap along Detroit Avenue CLEVELAND, Ohio - A pair of Ohio City parking lots is earmarked for a mixed-use project called the Church and State apartments, as part of a broader push to build up major corridors west of downtown Cleveland while preserving houses at the heart of the neighborhood. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/02/ohio_city_apartment_proposal_w.html#incart_river_home_pop

Last Saturday (Feb. 18) was the Brite Winter 2017 music festival around the West Bank. I have never seen this neighborhood so active and filled with people. Granted a festival isn't a weekly occurrence, especially with this good of weather in February, but you could really see the potential of the entire area. People were walking to FEB, West 25th, and the Warehouse District from the festival, showing that further development here could really help the entire area. This video has some cool shots of the festival.

^^ OKC is the only professional team in their state. Golden State are defending champs. Toronto represents the 4th largest city on the continent/35 million Canadians. I think Cleveland does pretty well in comparison, considering we are tied for the 4th longest NBA title drought.

- The back of the stage to Dan Smith Park between Brico and Bar 145 http://dansmithcommunitypark.com/ - The site prep is just about finished for the new Kent PD station, and the bidding process has just begun. - The city of Kent is currently looking for a new administration building/City Hall. http://www.kent360.com/10776-kents-next-city-hall.html

An update to the development projects in Downtown Kent. - Avant 220 Micro Apartments (which will feature a sushi restaurant and "Pizza Fire" on the first floor) http://www.pizzafire.com/#top - Flats 345 Apartments on the old Kent administration buildings http://www.345flats.com/ (You can see the building demolitions for the new Kent PD station just to the north on the same block)

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The development catty corner to the new Kent Police Station at Depeyster and Haymaker is a 5 story apartment building composed of ~50 "micro" units, with ground floor retail. An upscale pizza restaurant of sorts is rumored to be the ground floors primary tenant. http://www.avant220kent.com/about/

These 11 Cities Are Growing Faster Than San Francisco http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/05/these-11-cities-are-growing-faster-than-san-francisco/393860/

/\ The city of Kent sold the city Administration headquarters at the corner of Depeyster and Summit. The buildings were to big for what the city needed, and they agreed to sell the site for 2.4 mil to Newbrook Partners. City agencies have been scrambling to find temporary office space. Streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.150098,-81.356424,3a,75y,44.42h,84.73t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saK8_MzZa6rXguJdqonPzFA!2e0?hl=en

Lots of new activity between KSU main campus and Downtown Kent. - New Police Station/City Admin. - KSU CAED Building - KSU Institutional Advancement Building - 200+ Apartment Building on location of current city administration center http://www.kent360.com/9754-city-admin-relocation.html

These are all pipe dreams at best.

/\ - The Main reasoning behind the Blueline route is because of the higher density in that part of Cle Heights. - Definitely agree with you on an extension to CC center at 93rd, and an eventual extension down Euclid with a connection into new Downtown Loop. - I choose that route for the Greenline because it could create more ridership with a connection to John Carroll, University Square, Legacy and then Beachwood. - At Cedar, extension to Mayfield/Goldengate and Progressive via 271 would also be ideal. - The 'completion' of the loop could greatly increase land values and the expansion of Downtown to the east. Without the loop the WFL will continue to have low ridership excluding 10 or so days a year. FEB should help though. - A new inter modal station at E9th (North Coast Transit Center) would be much more useful when connected to a full loop. It would also be a good terminus for a possible commuter trains to Akron/Kent/Canton, Lakewood/Lorain, and Euclid/Mentor/Painesville. - Also trains that just run around the loop could be free, boosting/encouraging ridership.

Attached are revisions to RTA's current Transit Map. -'Completion' of downtown loop -New BRT lines/expansion -Red Line expansion to Euclid -Green/Blue Lines expanded east -Blue line expansion to Cedar-University Redline stop via Fairmount/Cedar

Really excited about the new alignment with the Blue Jackets. The NHL and AHL are beginning to realign with closer clubs. Also had a great crowd for season closer. 15,000 people. 4,000 more than Florida Panther's average.