JohnSummit

Kind of like this, but not as elegant or intentional: 1180 Peachtree in Atlanta.

I’ve got to think the leadership at SHW is regretting not going taller with building 1 or building the garage to support a tower above. The footprint of the site other than the garage is actually pretty tight to accommodate another tower without visually encroaching on tower 1. It does pose an interesting design challenge, and Pickard’s body of work doesn’t instill confidence in a creative solution. I feel like a stark contrast in facade could be good - would love to see a black metal grid a la 55 Hudson Yards.

I was waiting until tower 1 got closer to completion to ask everyone’s opinion here, but this kind of begs the question: Seeing the (almost) finished product now, would you rather have this, or to go back to 1993 and have the Ameritrust tower completed and standing all these years?

The idea of carrying a boardwalk into the river around the private developments reminded me of this article I'd seen a few days ago... https://newyorkyimby.com/2024/01/east-midtown-greenway-opens-along-east-river-waterfront-in-midtown-manhattan.html

Just curious, has that inner courtyard with the skylight above always been part of the Renaissance and its predecessor flags?

Purely speculating here, but the remaining structure that forms the slanted areas on top of the tower might be something other than the structural steel that has been used up to now. If those aren’t occupied floors above what is there now, it could be a lighter structural frame only there to support the decorative glass facade.

I wonder if enough soil has now been removed so that the risk of collapse has been averted.

Let’s see…. City in Ohio… Starts with a C… I think it has a river…. That looks like a good picture!

Nice final walk through video of former TRW HQ with historical background https://youtu.be/HaeeZAphc2Q?si=FfQ45-ILI9qIZx76

@dave2017 that is really messing with my head.

SHW, even just the first tower, will do more to balance the skyline view than any project in recent memory. As for the peer cities, do they have any large open spaces of a scale similar to Public Square or the malls which can never be built on? Possibly capitol square in Columbus. Those open spaces, while providing important civic amenities, have such large footprints that they diminish the appearance of density in our skyline at distance. But the view on approach from I-77 is the most impressive in my opinion. It’s just a wall of tall buildings from the river to CSU.

I know. Just for the fun of it.

Someone should do a rendering of this on the Garfield Hts. site.

Dang, I thought maybe it was gonna be some kind of retro Arby's.

I think the title of this thread needs to be changed. How about Gateway kinda sorta maybe someday some type of project? The thread started with excitement around he Guardians minority owner’s efforts in other cities, and potential collaboration with Gilbert on….something. But it’s been mostly a whole lotta speculation that there might be a project at some point in the future. Who really knows, though?

I assure you there are not any high-end retailers left there. The reasons for their demise are myriad. It was probably a stretch for them to be there in the first place. I always felt like Forest City had little imagination and interest in keeping their malls current. Mall operations 101 says a center needs to be significantly refreshed every 10 years. But suffice it to say, today is a much different world compared to 1990.

What does “Higbee” refer to?

I wonder if HQ2 will need its own structured parking, or if the 920 space phase 1 garage was sized to accommodate both. Obviously if HQ2 needs its own parking, it might call for a taller building if the parking has to be underneath the offices. In that massing, HQ2 appears to be at least 20 stories, given the notch on phase 1 is at levels 14 and 15.

These are the last two full-height floors that span the full width of the building. It appears that the very top one has a taller ceiling height than those below. Presumably this will be where the CEO and leadership team have offices. After these floors are done, the sloping framework should start to appear, giving the building its signature silhouette on the skyline.

It’s almost inconceivable to me how different the city will look and feel if all 3 of these projects come to fruition. Not to mention the CHEERS project on the east side. So looking forward to all!

Maybe they’re planning to put a place to eat there.

I'll hazard a guess the top sign is intended for drivers on the innerbelt, the middle one for drivers on Carnegie and Ontario, and the bottom one for pedestrians.

Let the purple reign begin.

@dave2017they should hire you. This is a vast improvement!

Can’t say for sure from that angle, but it looks to be wider than a standard sidewalk.