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Yes. My point is that using the city numbers to talk about the common pleas judge seats--which are county wide and not in any way connected to a city or based on its population--doesn't make any sense. And my point about the discussions related to the number of judgeships in Cuyahoga is related to the county population numbers you reference. Cuyahoga has a lot more CP judges on a per capita basis than Franklin and Hamilton counties. Whether that should be somehow changed has been something that's come up in the legal community for quite a while.

Doesn't make much sense to use the city numbers instead of the county numbers since the common pleas bench is county wide, but there's long been discussion about the number of judicial seats in Cuyahoga as compared to Franklin and Hamilton counties.

With Franklin County making up 62% of the metro as compared to Hamilton County making up 37% of the metro, I think the Franklin impact is far greater than you see in Hamilton County. Which has pluses and minuses, of course.

I agree with this take entirely. Understanding it's a matter of percentages, but it's hard to say a county that grows by 10,000 people is one of the fastest growing. That growth is less impressive than things like Franklin County's--or Delaware's, or Warren's, or Butler's, etc.

As a Cincinnati resident, I hope we don't come off as having sour grapes about the Columbus number. Particularly on the city side, having the biggest city limits population is something that Cincinnati is never going to have. I can see why the CLE folks, having once had 900,000 people in the city limits, may have a different perspective or take shots at Columbus in that regard. On a metro scale, it will be very interesting to see where Columbus and Cincinnati are in ten years. If they continue the current trajectory, they will be very close (with I assume Columbus slightly larger). All 3 C's are in interesting territory. Cleveland has to be pleased to have metro growth (albeit small) return--can they build on it? Columbus has obviously had incredible growth particularly in Franklin County -- will that growth switch to the suburban counties? As for Cincinnati, it's great that the city had nice growth and Hamilton County had growth. If my math is right, this is the first year that the three Ohio collar counties -- Butler, Warren, and Clermont -- have more combined population than Hamilton County. That makes for a fascinating dynamic. Heck, with Butler County nearly at 400,000 residents, it will soon start creeping up on some of the other urban counties -- I think it's only about 40,000 residents behind Lucas County now. In any event, it is good that we had great growth in the Columbus metro, solid growth in the Cincinnati metro, and positive growth in the CLE metro. For the state to take off we probably need to spread that magic throughout the other metros.

It's huge that the Cleveland metro added a few residents. Your metro can grow while the core city is losing people (as Cincinnati has done from 1950 to 2010), but it feels like it's really hard for the core city to grow while the metro is losing people. (It would be interesting to see how often it happens.) It's good to see that folks feel like Cleveland proper has turned the corner. I wonder if the growth will happen by the next census or after that. From my perspective down here, it was fascinating to see the city growing while OTR actually lost population (smaller household sizes being primarily to blame, and buildings that were once multi-unit becoming single family). Downtown growth is great and has a huge psychological effect, but in Cincinnati I think the story will be the other neighborhoods that stopped the bleeding and really drove the growth. That's the part that IMO Cleveland will have to do to really get the city headed in the right direction.

Would love to see county stats as well, and an updated list of metro populations to see where the 3C's now rank.

Two things. First, kudos on your projections--really close. Second, awesome that the city and the county both hit your "high end" predictions. That's great.

That's a fantastic result. And good to see the county growing, and the metro growth of well over 100K was very solid.

Very cool. Love WV. Favorite state besides Ohio. Also, I am always jealous of their capitol building. It's beautiful. Finally, clearly the best WV food is Tudor's Biscuit World.

These are fascinating. Thanks for posting.

This seemed like the ideal place to include the list. I have no idea--haven't seen the full list, and apparently there are other 500K+ metros that don't make the top 100 (including I guess Toledo and Akron?) so presumably all of those would be below Cleveland on the list. Kind of in the "also receiving votes" category on a Top 25 football poll.

A ranking of America's Best Cities is out, done by Resonance Consultancy. It ranks the Top 100, and considers metropolitan areas with a population of 500,000 or more. Ohio entrants in the top 100: 18. Columbus 37. Cincinnati 76. Dayton 97. Cleveland The top 5 are New York, LA, Chicago, San Francisco, and Boston. https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/07/02/top-100-cities.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=ae&utm_content=ci&ana=e_ci_ae&j=24344686&senddate=2021-07-02

Everyone's spot-on with the Millenial baby boom. I'd also suggest that the 90s have the benefit of improved healthcare allowing older folks to live longer. I remember when I was a kid, someone who was 65 was definitely "old," and it wasn't uncommon for people to die in their 60s. Now, of course, that seems young (especially as I am in my 40s), and it feels like people dying in their 70s or 80s is much more typical. I think we saw some real medical leaps that people were able to reap the benefits of.

That's really disappointing. Assuming that the $90 million in private commitments all came through (does anyone track that stuff?), it's hard to believe that there's not something more permanent for $140 million in funding.

Partially it's the typical merger issues, but keep in mind that some of the F1000 mainstays for Cincinnati are now F500. For years, Cincinnati Financial, Cintas, and Western-Southern were not in the top 500, or were knocking on the door. Now they are all well inside that mark. It would be really interesting if someone tracked how many of the companies between 500 and 1000 make it into the Fortune 500 vs. getting purchased before they do.

Is Columbus ending up with some lasting infrastructure out of this?

Based on Cincinnati migratory patterns, I feel like there can literally never be enough flights from CVG to Fort Myers and Sarasota. That side of Florida is such a magnet for Cincinnati retirees. About 10 years ago now (gulp) I flew to Fort Myers to CVG on Delta for business. I am not kidding, I think the entire flight but me used the "preboard if you need extra time because you are older" option. (Fort Myers airport is pretty nice, by the way.)

This may well be true, but there's something to be said for reducing whatever flights you can. If I have the choice between a two hour drive to take a direct flight to Paris vs. going and making a connection through JFK or ATL, I will always choose the former. Nothing worse than a connection/layover in a big crowded airport. I think that traditionally the CVG-Paris flight has had the ideal departure time for a trip to Europe. Evening flight, flying overnight, arrive in the morning. Sleep on the plane and then power through the jetlag by staying awake as long as you can when you get there.

Not subsidized and it does have the benefit of support by the business community--lots of GE and P&G use of that flight to get to Europe. Having flown to Europe on it before, it's a great perk. Glad it's coming back.

Also, between the new passenger flights and the absolute boom in cargo (I think CVG is up to no. 6 in cargo tonnage among airports and knocking on the door for no. 5), it's hard to complain about how the airport is doing. Finishing the construction projects and the Amazon hub and I think the place is just going to take off through the stratosphere.

CVG passenger numbers bouncing back well. https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/01/cvg-passenger-count.html

I think you may be thinking of the American Book Building, which is on Pike Street (in the general area, but not either of these buildings). I think the American Book Building was renovated and has stable office clients. http://wikimapia.org/19331491/American-Book-Binding-Building

Yeah, I thought of Nashville (not as much of Charlotte). Both are definitely growing. Charlotte already has NFL and NBA, but it's a pretty populated state. Nashville has NHL and NFL, adding MLB to a 2 million metro is a big ask. Plus I was more thinking western U.S., just so you wouldn't have to have realignment! Texas could probably support another team. Put them in San Antonio or Austin, and they're already in the same division with the Rangers and Astros. Instant Texas Triangle rivalry.

Hard to see them actually leaving Oakland, especially with the Raiders in Vegas and the Warriors across the bay now. But you never know. MLB is such a resource intensive sport--40,000 seats for 80 dates a year---and it's not growing in popularity, so I have to imagine there are not many places that would make much sense as a potential relocation site (assuming there's any possibility out of NoCal.) Portland, maybe? Vegas now has NHL and NFL--for that size market, it would be tough to add baseball. Ditto Salt Lake City. With under 1.3 million in the metro, that's hard to support NBA and MLB. Buffalo is a great minor league baseball city, but I don't see how a metro under 1.2 million could support NHL and NBA and NFL. The smartest play would be to go to one of the big Canadian markets--Vancouver or Montreal--but that seems incredibly unlikely. I assume they ultimately stay in the Bay Area, but maybe they end up playing in some other part of it.