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pretty spectacular little hamlet

wow... it's... tiffin good job, ink

You might be interested to know that Atlanta ranks 90th in wage growth... despite its reputation for having the nation's most booming economy. In fact, it's per capita income ranks below the 3 C's. So they've been creating a lot of jobs down there... but the low-wage sprawl-servicing jobs have apparently vastly outweighed the high-wage jobs.

As a former resident of Wayne Co... I take offense to your depiction of my former home. Lovely photos though.

gorgeous... i haven't been to Cleveland in so long... I miss Tommy's...

I don't know which slogan I like better.. "Rise Up" or "we are all witnesses"

Beautiful photos of a beautiful event.

Biz Journals just did a study ranking the 100 largest metros in the US on income growth over the past 25 years. Seven Ohio metros were included in the study. Here is where Ohio Metros rank: 53. Cincinnati 58. Columbus 72. Akron 89. Cleveland 92. Dayton 94. Toledo 95. Youngstown LIST http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/92.html MAIN ARTICLE http://www.bizjournals.com/edit_special/52.html?page=2 METHODOLOGY http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/97.html Metros with the slowest income growth Two states dominate the bottom of the rankings. Five markets from California and three from Ohio are among the 10 with the worst records of income growth. California's laggards -- Stockton, Bakersfield, Riverside-San Bernardino, Fresno and Modesto -- are all located in the state's interior, which has grown much more slowly than the metros along the Pacific coast. Ohio is in the midst of a protracted slump triggered by the decline of its automaking and heavy-manufacturing sectors. Youngstown, Toledo and Dayton are all in the bottom 10. ... Biz Journals featured the 10 worst performing metros Youngstown These are tough times in Ohio. Domestic automakers and other manufacturers are under siege, and all aspects of the state's economy have been suffering as a result. Youngstown's pain is reflected in its meager income-growth rate of 33 percent since 1995. Only New Orleans was slower. Per capita income: 2005: $27,670 2000: $24,584 1990: $17,086 1980: $9,844 Income growth: 2000-2005: 12.6% 1990-2005: 61.9% 1980-2005: 181.1% Growth score: -28.54 points Other stats Metro population (2006): 586,939 Annual rate of population growth (2000-2006): -0.4% Metro employment (March 2007): 236,600 Employment growth (2006-2007): -1.9% © urbanohio.com :-D Toledo Toledo dropped below the national average for per capita income in 1995, and its subsequent efforts for a comeback have proved futile. It now sits more than $3,500 below the U.S. PCI of $34,471. Toledo ranks 97th out of 100 markets for income growth during the past decade. Per capita income: 2005: $30,915 2000: $27,768 1990: $18,919 1980: $10,353 Income growth: 2000-2005: 11.3% 1990-2005: 63.4% 1980-2005: 198.6% Growth score: -28.40 points Other stats Metro population (2006): 653,695 Annual rate of population growth (2000-2006): -0.1% Metro employment (March 2007): 330,200 Employment growth (2006-2007): -0.2% © iStockphoto.com Dayton Dayton joins two fellow Ohio metros -- Youngstown and Toledo -- in the bottom 10. All three areas are losing high-paying manufacturing jobs, which is depressing overall income levels. Dayton's PCI has grown just 36 percent in 10 years, compared to the U.S. average of 49 percent. Per capita income: 2005: $31,792 2000: $28,548 1990: $19,106 1980: $10,338 Income growth: 2000-2005: 11.4% 1990-2005: 66.4% 1980-2005: 207.5% Growth score: -23.36 points Other stats Metro population (2006): 838,940 Annual rate of population growth (2000-2006): -0.2% Metro employment (March 2007): 405,900 Employment growth (2006-2007): -0.5% © shutterstock.com ... The 7 Ohio metros ranked by Per Capita Income 2005: 1. Cleveland $35,423 2. Cincinnati $34,961 3. Columbus $34,960 4. Akron $33,396 5. Dayton $31,792 6. Toledo $30,915 7. Youngstown $27,670 How do Ohio metros stack up against regional peers in income growth? 1. Birmingham 10. Madison 19. Pittsburgh 33. Minneapolis-St. Paul 41. Milwaukee 42. Louisville 43. Indianapolis 53. Cincinnati 58. Columbus 66. Kansas City 72. Akron 73. Buffalo 76. St. Louis 78. Chicago 79. Grand Rapids 80. Detroit 84. Syracuse 89. Cleveland 91. Rochester 92. Dayton 94. Toledo 95. Youngstown 100. New Orleans

hey now... no need to be confrontational... Pittsburghers did support one of your teams recently ;)

I've read many comments on this forum that have stated that Coventry is "past its prime" or "declined from its heydey" or whatever... which is why I asked (the very title of this thread implies that Coventry is not what it once was). I've only been to Coventry in the past couple years... so I had no historical experience to compare it to. I am aware that a few new shops and thai restaurants have opened up... but the general sense I gather from the UO community is that Coventry is past its peak. Perhaps it can surpass its historical peak in the future... but it seems to not occupy the cultural milieu it once did. As for Shaker Square... I assumed it had declined due to the loss of several major tenents like Joseph-Beth. From reading the discussion on Shaker Square on here... it seemed to me that it was in a state of decline and uncertainty (a CVS is not exactly a big win for Shaker Square)...

I'm just an ignorant outsider... but what was Coventry like at its peak? And when was its peak... 10 years ago? I only experienced it in the past couple years... It seems that 3 of Cleveland's most famous retail/entertainment districts have declined in recent years: Coventry, Shaker Square and The Flats... where are Cleveland's hot spots today? (Please don't say Crocker Park)

this thread is largely devoted to "people shots" and street scenes collected from the South Side on a Tuesday evening in May... and the Strip District on a Saturday morning last month when Rob from Ft. Wayne came to visit first let's take a stroll along the South Side's East Carson St. a favourite venue of mine nice headband ... now let's head over to the Strip District heading downtown to meet with Rob and mrherodotus (chucka would arrive post-Strip) best biscotti ever... even inspired a movie... "The Bread, My Sweet" starring Scott Baio guess she had to scratch her nose at the very moment i snapped a pic... bah an eclectic mix The Bank of New York tower :(

Michael Stanley Band - "My Town"

http://www.centredaily.com/news/state/story/124446.html Ohio smokers jumping across state line to light up By JOHN SEEWER - Associated Press Writer TOLEDO, Ohio --Bartender Tracy Smith quit her job in Ohio after voters banned smoking inside most public places so she could find work in Michigan. It was a smart move. Her tips are up and the bar where she now works is looking for more help now that smokers are crossing the state line to light up. "We are getting new faces every day," she said. Link unavailable.

ouch... http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003742764_marinotes11.html "To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to," Ichiro said through an interpreter. "If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying."

Seicer: Is there any push for a statewide smoking ban in the Kentucky legislature? My county here in PA (Allegheny) passed a countywide ban last year... but it was struck down by the state courts... which has been the impetus for our current statewide ban initiative.

Structural consolidation is probably unlikely... what Greater Cleveland should investigate is something like the tax base sharing program implemented in Minnesota's Twin Cities region.

A statewide smoking ban bill has reached the Senate floor in Pennsylvania... hopefully we follow Ohio's progressive lead... but I worry it won't be passed due to powerful special interests and corrupt politicos... or at least it will have so many exemptions to render it ineffective. Currently every state bordering Pennsylvania has a statewide smoking ban (except WV, which allows its counties to enact smoking bans)

How long will you be living in HOTlanta?

it's fine... i wasn't sure which forum to post this in... I'm sure somebody will merge the topics... anyways... I find this to be pretty interesting development... I just visited the campus about a year ago... it was a very unique campus with that gorgeous wilderness area they have... but it did seem very dead... which makes sense as there was only 400 students... it seems like Antioch offers a very unique education... but I wonder why a liberal arts school that seems to have a pretty famous reputation would have such a tiny endowment

ah... I just posted this exact thread in Business and Economy minutes ago... d'oh

They also have this in downtown Baltimore- called Power Plant Live. However, I think this is a cheesy way to develop. It only brings people in on Friday and Saturday night. During daytime and weeknights, the area is generally deserted (and quite scary given its Baltimore). Agreed, person. We're even getting one of these cornball Cordish developments here in Pittsburgh near the stadiums called North Shore Live! I can't wait to see which chain bars and faux Irish pubs we get.

My first thought when I saw the title was that Cleveland was trying to recreate Pittsburgh's Strip District in the Flats... which is an old warehouse area that now features a lively gourmet food marketplace, ethnic restaurants and nightclubs... and one strip club (which I think might be out of business now). http://www.pittsburghneighborhoodtours.com/pr13/neighborhoods/default.asp?nHood=7 Anyways... Frank Jackson's idea seems bold and innovative.

what an amazing town

That was my reaction too... great photos, MABCLE!