Evergrey

i prefer to call it a "satellite" as opposed to an "exurb"

If you check out Ferchill's website... you'll see he's done tons of projects in Cleveland.

How is steelpan "white"?

Can a Clevelander explain stadium mustard? I unfortunately never tasted it while living in NEO. Everyone seems to regard it as Cleveland's definitive delicacy. What makes Stadium Mustard so great? And how is it woven into the fabric of Cleveland identity?

I've been listening to a lot of Gregorian Chant and steelpan orchestras lately... sometimes simultaneously.

It's too bad my grandfather died before he got to see this legendary and long-awaited match.

The entire NL Central is one pathetic mess of crap.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/business/s_510617.html Ohio developer builds on Pittsburgh success By Ron DaParma TRIBUNE-REVIEW Saturday, June 2, 2007 Buoyed by success developing historic properties in Pittsburgh and other cities, developer John Ferchill is taking on what he terms his biggest challenge yet -- a $180 million building revitalization project in Detroit. Ferchill is deeply involved in an effort to turn the abandoned 33-story Book-Cadillac hotel in the "Motor City" into a luxury hotel and condominium project. He hopes to use some lessons learned here to aid in that effort, he said in an interview Friday. For more information, click above link. Ron DaParma can be reached at [email protected] or 412-320-7907.

South Side Slopes!? No, it's not a ski resort... it's a city neighborhood. It's a steep, rugged hillside neighborhood on the city's South Side above the bustling Flats district. The wooded hillsides rise above the city, offering panoramic urban views. The slopes are dotted with a unique type of house... a frame form from the late 1800s... one room wide, 2 rooms deep and 3-4 stories tall. The slender, tall houses lend a distinctive character to the slopes, which are visible from many areas of the city. The modest housing was built for immigrant steelworkers, who would descend the slopes via funiculars and an intricate system of staircases that still exists. The steps are one of the neighborhoods defining features... hundreds and hundreds of steps... many officially streets with legal right-of-ways... with housing precariously perched alongside. The road system is narrow, confusing and vertigo-inducing. Pittsburgh is defined by its turbulent topography, and the Slopes take this characteristic to the extreme. Today the Slopes are finally generating some buzz... with a glowing article in the New York Times last year... new high-end residential construction throughout the neighborhood... and a new breed of urban pioneer dazzled by the views and intrigued by the slopes' character. Downtown skyscrapers peek over the crest of the hill Oakland from a Slopes cemetary Oakland with Billy Buck Hill in the foreground looking down at some rowhouses on S. 18th St. as it winds towards the Flats more insane urban views climbing up the slopes close-up of Oakland across the Monongahela River a bifurcated street a steep front yard Flats detail Cathedral of Learning i can see my favorite coffeeshop from here don't lose your footing Birmingham Bridge Carnegie Mellon University Oakland skyline West Oakland randomness... check out those houses on the left quack couple of mountain goats every way is up i heart insulbrick tall houses with seemingly random window placement i'll take the Veal Sweetbreads with Raspberry Vinaigrette, Leeks and Morels Flats detail the redeveloped Lower Hill a former convent... now secular that church went condo last year don't know the status of this one... there's a big cluster of religious buildings on Pius St. houses along St. Michael St.... only accessible by staircase Monastery St. S. 18th is the Slopes' main thoroughfare Flats rooftops new construction taking a few cues from the traditional stock more new construction slopes from Mt. Washington the condo church slopes from West End Overlook slopes from Spring Hill slopes from Flats slopes from Herron Hill

well, I guess these photos must be pretty awesome this time around if they're provoking this type of violent attack from the Cleveland Boosters Association! I have a project for you... why don't some of you guys with a little extra time on your hands... search my 18 pages of posts... and come up with all the hard examples of me bashing Cleveland and you can start a thread on it... "Examples of Evergrey Bashing Cleveland".

If you want a house with a view... you might want to check out one of these beauties

I think it's fabulous that somebody from Calgary joined UrbanOhio just to bash Edmonton lol

"Did I give a textbook response? Well, in a sense, yes. That's because THERE USED TO BE BOOKS that governed the principles of good design. Now, all you have to do is look up the number of required parking spaces in the Municipal Code, and plop your shitbox wherever and however you want." - DanInDC

googled "stryker, oh photos"

I like the graveyard and the barn.

remedied... UO doesn't support the formatting I was using

so... I feel a little embarrassed to post yet another Pittsburgh thread... but I can't help myself... this one is unlike anything I've ever posted before... relax... and keep your eyes open... for you are now a spectator of the Topographical City The view from my apartment... the University of Pittsburgh's Cathedral of Learning looms over Oakland St. Paul's Cathedral Duquesne University in the foreground... University of Pittsburgh in the distance... Oak Hill in the middle South Side with Squirrel Hill / Greenfield in background PNC's FirstSide... completed in 2001... LEED-certified green building Grant Building... 1928 vintage The Try St. Terminal (bottom center) has just been converted to student apartments for the Art Institute of Pittsburgh The intricate detail at the top of the Park Building (foreground)... built in 1896, it is Pittsburgh's oldest existing skyscraper... it unfortunately suffered serious defacement during the mid-20th century 151 FirstSide is nearing completion... it is an 18-story condo tower... the beginnings of a wave of new residential downtown The Mt. Washington overlooks were refurbished last year South Side Slopes... the overhead apparatus of the Allentown trolly line is visible bottom right the historic Mon Wharf looking towards the redeveloped areas of the Lower Hill District the Monongahela Incline descending into the lush vegetation the prominent church no longer beckons the faithful... but serves as luxury condos with breathtaking views of the cityscape Gateway Center... early 50s office complex i love these old buildings a few more old gems Duquesne University... alma mater of step2me city of bridges... Allegheny River North Side and PNC Park Heinz Field, Community College of Allegheny County and North Side neighborhoods Allegheny General Hospital and a bunch of ugly 1960s apartment buildings looking towards the Strip District and Lawrenceville in the distance... the huge brick complex in the foreground is the long-vacant Armstrong Cork Factory... just converted into 295 apartments... in the background the new Children's Hospital is under construction and designed for LEED "green" certification the old Heinz Factory is now 265 apartments close-up of PNC Park and some of the new development on the North Shore mid-rise mania Duquesne Incline Ft. Pitt Bridge crossing the Monongahela awesome Troy Hill on the right... Spring Hill on the left... and Spring Garden in the narrow valley in between the Ohio River Strip District, Polish Hill, Bloomfield, Garfield, etc. Duquesne Heights the confluence Convention Center... largest LEED-certified green building in the world... University of Pitt in background... the Goodyear's (lower right) days are numbered... as a "green" neighborhood of 700 residential units in multiple towers will begin construction on that site later this year this city is awesome Manchester... spot the infill? Monongahela bridges a rather steep backyard I thought this view would be better... from Round Top in Crafton Heights a Burnham original... former rail offices... now apartments... though Amtrak still stops there... the soon-to-be-demolished Mellon Arena behind it The Oliver Building (center) is one of my favorites the Renaissance Hotel in middle how many other American cities offer you views like this? (rhetorical) so rich in texture running out of light Come to the Pittsburgh Forum Meet on May 12th Farewell from "America's Most Livable City"* *according to Places Rated Almanac

The following is information concerning economic and workforce trends of the four largest MSAs in the 4th Federal Reserve District, headquarted in Cleveland. http://www.clevelandfed.org Most recent numbers are for 3/2007 (in thousands) Total Nonfarm Employment Cincinnati: 1,031.60 Cleveland: 1,061.60 Columbus: 924.60 Pittsburgh: 1,131.00 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 0.34 Cleveland: -0.36 Columbus: 0.30 Pittsburgh: 0.60 Manufacturing Cincinnati: 120.70 Cleveland: 144.20 Columbus: 76.40 Pittsburgh: 98.70 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 1.00 Cleveland: -2.44 Columbus: -1.93 Pittsburgh: -0.80 Trade, Transportation & Utilities Cincinnati: 207.00 Cleveland: 196.50 Columbus: 185.60 Pittsburgh: 223.30 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 0.00 Cleveland: -0.30 Columbus: 0.81 Pittsburgh: -0.49 Information Cincinnati: 15.30 Cleveland: 18.60 Columbus: 18.60 Pittsburgh: 23.00 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: -2.55 Cleveland: -2.62 Columbus: -2.11 Pittsburgh: 0.00 Financial Activities Cincinnati: 64.50 Cleveland: 76.80 Columbus: 72.90 Pittsburgh: 67.90 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: -0.62 Cleveland: -0.65 Columbus: -0.27 Pittsburgh: -0.73 Professional and Business Services Cincinnati: 154.60 Cleveland: 137.70 Columbus: 143.00 Pittsburgh: 145.50 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 0.52 Cleveland: 0.29 Columbus: 2.14 Pittsburgh: 1.39 Education and Health Services Cincinnati: 140.90 Cleveland: 174.60 Columbus: 108.90 Pittsburgh: 230.20 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 2.85 Cleveland: 1.39 Columbus: 0.46 Pittsburgh: 2.81 Leisure and Hospitality Cincinnati: 101.90 Cleveland: 90.30 Columbus: 87.00 Pittsburgh: 100.00 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: -0.39 Cleveland: 0.11 Columbus: 0.58 Pittsburgh: -0.20 Other Services Cincinnati: 42.40 Cleveland: 44.10 Columbus: 37.50 Pittsburgh: 54.50 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 0.47 Cleveland: 0.68 Columbus: 0.00 Pittsburgh: 0.37 Government Cincinnati: 135.50 Cleveland: 141.10 Columbus: 157.90 Pittsburgh: 131.10 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: -0.22 Cleveland: -1.40 Columbus: 0.00 Pittsburgh: 0.31 Homeownership Rate 1/1/2005 Units(%) Cleveland: 74.40 Pittsburgh: 73.10 Columbus: 68.90 Cincinnati: 68.40 Building Permits (All Units) 3/1/2007 Cincinnati: 795.00 Cleveland: 324.00 Columbus: 436.00 Pittsburgh: 626.00 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: -23.26 Cleveland: -31.06 Columbus: -46.37 Pittsburgh: 7.01 Building Permits (Single Family Units) Cincinnati: 612.00 Cleveland: 310.00 Columbus: 374.00 Pittsburgh: 302.00 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: -23.69 Cleveland: -30.02 Columbus: -48.06 Pittsburgh: -35.05 Per Capita Personal Income 1/1/2005 Dollars Cincinnati: 35,618.00 Cleveland: 35,542.00 Columbus: 35,226.00 Pittsburgh: 36,208.00 Year-over-Year growth (%) Cincinnati: 3.64 Cleveland: 3.73 Columbus: 3.22 Pittsburgh: 4.39

I wasn't trying to respond to your comment as if it was a diss, but merely providing some information on local culinary culture.

Keep 'em comin'! If Philly ever got its act together... it could be this country's Melbourne.

what an imperial city

Bravo! Here's to another 35 years of urban photography of the highest calibre!

beautiful shots!

Celebrate May Day! :clap: :whip: