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And therein lies the problem. Money. Anyone can build anything anywhere in the city if they have endless funds and no need for a specific ROI. But that's simply not the case, which is why I said we need to temper our expectations. Developing this lot into anything other than industrial space is going to be a massive financial risk because of the location.

I'm assuming you mean Mound? I understand we all want to see good urban development as much as possible, but I really don't know how much we can demand with this location. It's essentially bound by two cemeteries, an industrial area, and a highway. It's an extremely difficult piece of land to work with.

I would imagine there will be one heck of a breeze on that pool deck.

There's an article in the Dispatch about new Cooper Stadium plans. I can't read it because I don't have a subscription, but it's there if anyone with a subscription wants to check it out. https://www.dispatch.com/restricted/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dispatch.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2022%2F03%2F23%2Fcooper-stadium-redevelopment-would-include-housing-retail-dog-park%2F6894812001%2F Based on this tweet, the plans include two retail buildings, a paved event space (whatever that means), a dog park, two mixed-use buildings, and 500 residential units.

Ok, so compare the Short North to Broad Street or High Street downtown. One area has nothing over 12-stories tall (mostly under 6 stories) while the other area contains the largest number of 500'+ tall towers in the entire state. Which area is more popular? Which area is a more pleasant pedestrian experience? Which area do people prefer to live? Which area do tourists spend their time in?

One thing to consider here is the fact that Chandler, and the entire greater Phoenix area, largely grew up during a time when suburban sprawl was king. Urban development really wasn't happening anywhere in the country like it is now. Many more people want to live in an urban environment today than in 1990. For that reason, I don't think we'll see strictly urban sprawl like what the Chandler area experienced between 1980 and 2000.

Hilton Tower looking nice, sandwiched between the AEP and Nationwide towers.

Looks like you can book nonstop flights as early as June 3rd. I know nonstop flights to SFO have been available to book numerous times Covid began, only to be pulled as the dates got closer, but I think these ones are here to stay.

Are you trying to misspell Phoenix in every way possible? 😂

This is how all large companies operate. No company is sending their ELT members on commercial flights for domestic trips. Aside from Nationwide having some offices in Des Moines necessitating periodic business travel, there would be virtually no demand for a direct flight out of CMH. No airline would take that route. A direct route from CMH to a gateway in Asia would require a massive amount of demand in order to make it feasible. You would two or three Honda-type companies in order to pull that off. But a direct route from CMH to the Bay Area or PDX will be much easier to pull off. There's already demand for both areas before Intel even begins to have an impact. Southwest has flown to OAK on and off over the years and United was flying to SFO until Covid killed that. A large reason for the SFO flight was the demand to go to Asia. We didn't have enough demand to get a direct to Asia, but we had enough people wanting to go the Bay Area / Asia that the direct made sense. Since Covid happened and travel to Asia became non-existent, the flight didn't make sense. But, now that travel is rebounding and Intel is coming in, there will be more than enough demand for the Bay Area. PDX is a good vacation destination aside from the Intel travel demand. It could likely support a Southwest route, even if it's not quite 7x weekly.

So I posted this over in the Intel thread, but it probably fits here a bit better. I was browsing the airliners.net forum when I came across this post. The user claims to have had some discussions with community planning folks at City Hall who claim there will be more "higher profile" like Intel who will be coming to Central Ohio. This is obviously quite vague, but definitely something to keep an eye on.

I came across an interesting post on airliners.net relating to Intel coming to Central Ohio. The user who made this post claims to have had discussions with community development folks at City Hall who mentioned there are more "higher profile" companies who will be moving to Columbus. Intel was apparently just the first. Very interesting... Edit: Oops, just realized I posted this in the New Albany and not the Intel thread. Oh well.

They already know where the other large companies in Columbus need to fly, so those already exist. Intel is brand new and has different needs, so of course they are going to be a priority in the near term. I think you are overreacting.

At what point does he say they only care about where Intel wants to fly?

We currently have a 360’ tower that just topped out, a 410’ tower under construction, a 380’ tower close to breaking ground, and a 350’+ tower coming soon. The notion that people don’t want to build tall here seems to be going by the wayside.

Oh thank god! Campus has lost a couple tower cranes over the past few days so it’s great to see the supply being replenished in a timely manner.

They didn't say NMT needs the TMUD to get built. They said they will begin construction this year, but apply for the next round of TMUD (because they project meets the requirements so why wouldn't they) which won't be issued until next year.

The first app is for a tower crane. The second is for the tower itself.

So apparently the tower crane went up before the application was even approved by the FAA. I just found apps for a 230' tower crane and a 177' tower. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=516849226&row=126 https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=517710201&row=175

I disagree. If the structure can be saved, I think it should be saved. I think you could build high-rises on the surface lots on both ends of this building without making it totally useless. Even though the area is bound by railroad tracks, there are tunnels leading you directly to the Scioto Peninsula parking garages and the Gravity parking garages. You could turn the outdoor areas between the building and the railroad tracks into cool pedestrian alleyways so that space isn't wasted. I think it has the potential to be a really cool area and bridge the gap between Gravity and the Peninsula, all without tearing a historical building with character.

Little Italy is apparently going to occupy the entire first floor of Wert's Grove, so the burger/chicken place and coffee/bakery place are out. I think the coffee shop being discussed for the current Little Italy location is different than what was originally supposed to occupy Wert's Grove. I don't think Little Italy was ever planning to move to the hot rod building. They had purchased that along with the owners of the vet clinic and were working on figuring out plans for that site. I believe you are correct with respect to 325 Main.

Looks like Little Italy will be occupying the retail space in the Wert's Grove building. https://www.columbusmessenger.com/little-italy-to-move-into-new-werts-grove-building.html According to the article, Little Italy has outgrown the building they've been in for decades and will be moving into the Wert's Grove building at Main and Front once it is completed. Different tenants were initially announced for this building, but leases were never signed and the deals apparently fell through. Little Italy hopes to have the interior fully built and move in by September of this year. The owners of Little Italy will be retaining ownership of their current building and are looking to lease it out. They are currently in talks with a local couple who want to open a coffee house/bakery, but a lease has not yet been signed.

Welcome to the modern-day legislative process, my friend.

And apparently the tower has grown 30' since we last heard from the developers. According to their presentation to the downtown commission back in September, the tower was planned to be 352'.

Based solely on what I've seen with other projects, you don't see these applications pop up until the developer is fully prepared to start construction. Applications were filed for the Hilton 2.0 tower about 2 months before the crane went up. Crane applications were filed for the WMC tower about 2 months before the cranes went up. I think we could expect to, at the very least, see a ground breaking for this tower sometime around Memorial Day.