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I've never been inside the downtown YMCA, but I wonder what it could be re-purposed into. The first thing that comes to mind is a hotel. The outside of the building is really cool and unique, so hopefully it gets used to its fullest potential and doesn't just sit there vacant.

You were arguing that FCC is a "big deal" in Cincinnati when, in fact, it is not. FCC has a very long way to go before they are a big deal. The Bengals might be the worst team in the league this year, they have been horrible for the last three years, and haven't won a playoff game since 1990. They still manage to convince 40-50k people to show up to PBS 8 times a year. The Reds have been bad for 20 years, and haven't won a playoff series since 1995, yet they still manage to convince 20-25k poor souls to make their way down to GABP 81 times a year. If FCC strings together a few more seasons even half as bad as this year, they will struggle to get 18k people to show up.

That's their announced attendance. Their actual attendance is much lower if you've watched any of their games. They have been hemorrhaging season ticket holders for the last few years, and next year will likely see a steep decline. Each of the last three seasons they have lowered their average by ~1.5k, and their rate of decline has been increasing each year.

Compared to every other sport in Cincinnati, FCC is not a big deal. It's a new exciting thing right now, and a nice change of pace since every other team sucks (except UC football by the looks of things), but is still no where close to the Bengals, Reds, or UC football. If they do not become competitive and end up following along the path of a team like Orlando City, attendance and overall interest will drop very quickly. The demographics for a college football game compared to an MLS game are drastically different. That alone would result in a huge fluctuation in business at a nearby sports bar. For example, how many suburban families are driving to Nippert for a UC football game compared to a FCC game?

I don't think we are lacking anything by only having these two restaurants along the riverfront. I think the riverfront is amazing and will be even better once Franklinton fills in. The only place I would be fine with adding another restaurant would be if we removed Washington Street between Town and Maine. Washington Street is redundant as Starling and Belle can get you back and forth between Main and Front. Removing Washington would allow for the construction of something like Milestone 229 on the west side of the river with great views of downtown while not disrupting the green space we have created along the river.

I snatched it from r/Columbus. It looks like it might be from the Summit Chase Condo building.

The fog was cool this morning.

Stating that eating babies is obviously not the answer to the impending climate doom AOC blabs about doesn't even take preparation. It just takes a bit of common sense.

I believe this is just temporary for the groundbreaking and probably throughout construction. If you look at the renderings of the stadium, you will see what appears to be permanent yellow letters spelling Columbus on the smoke stack.

Thankfully they should be wrapped by 5-stories of apartments in the future so it will be somewhat hidden.

That went up Saturday. It looks awesome. https://mobile.twitter.com/columbuscrewsc/status/1181354687905325058

Looks like the 10-story building might end up being an 11-story building. "NEW COMMERCIAL 11-STORY HIGH RISE. 7 FLOORS OF PARKING GARAGE WITH 4 FLOORS OF OFFICE. RETAIL/RESTAURANT COMPONENT ON 1ST AND 8TH FLOORS, AN A POOL DECK ON 8TH FLOOR. 5-STORY APARTMENTS WILL WRAP AROUND THE GARAGE (FUTURE PROJECT)"

A new structure application was filed a few days ago for a "5 story type 3A construction building sitting atop a 2 story type 1A construction building". I'm assuming this means 5 stories of residential atop two stories of parking. Based on how Easton has been developed, I would assume (and hope) that at least the portion along Worth would include ground floor retail. This application is related this parcel which was discussed a few posts ago: A 7-story structure would make sense considering the below picture from the CU article posted above.

Interesting. That's the first I've heard that. I wonder how much they would be willing to expand given the plans for a new terminal at CMH. There is certainly plenty of space at LCK to expand.

If they are snow birds and regularly go back and forth from Ohio to Florida, this wouldn't surprise me as they probably aren't checking bags and maybe not even carrying on anything other than a personal item. If you travel that way, Allegiant is extremely cheap. Personally, I much prefer Southwest over Allegiant/Frontier/Spirit. Southwest still offers pretty solid prices but their service is much better than the other three. I do wonder how much Allegiant can increase service out of LCK. Currently, LCK only has two gates and one runway. With all of their cargo flights, charter flights, and Air National Guard activity I'm not sure how many more Allegiant flights they could comfortably add without building a second runway. As of early last year I know there were no plans to expand the passenger terminal at LCK.

Yes, the flights are cheaper. The difference between Allegiant and Southwest is that Allegiant has fees for everything in addition to you just getting on the plane. So if you want to check a bag you pay a fee. If you want to carry on a bag you pay a fee. If you want a snack you pay a fee. If you want to print your boarding pass at the airport you pay a fee. Even after the fees, Allegiant is still pretty cheap, not much cheaper than Southwest. I'm not sure what you mean by the additional flights. What I said for Florida applies to all the other cities as well. CMH provides nonstop service to all cities Allegiant services from CVG. CVG is a main focus city for Allegiant, so they have a lot more flights there than at CMH or CLE, but CMH/CLE have more flights on other carriers like Southwest and Spirit.

In terms of flights on Allegiant, you have to consider where Allegiant's discount competitors are flying to from each city. Southwest is the largest airline at CMH and provides about 10 direct flights to 4 different cities in Florida, and addition to many more connecting flights to Florida through Atlanta. Spirit and Frontier also provide direct flights to 3 cities in Florida with about 4-5 flights per day. In contrast, the only city in Florida Southwest services from Cincinnati is Orlando, and that is only a couple days per week. Spirit does not service CVG at all. Frontier services a good number of cities from CVG but most on a non-daily basis. All told, Cincinnati has about 75 direct flights on discount airlines to Florida this week, while Columbus has a little over 100 direct flights to Florida on discount airlines. That's assuming I counted correctly. Bottom line, Allegiant "screws over" Columbus because Southwest already owns a huge chunk of the market in Columbus. In terms of flights to Phoenix, Southwest runs a daily direct flight from CMH to Phoenix, while Allegiant only runs a 3 days/week flight from CVG to Phoenix. The only reason I could see them driving to Cincinnati/Ft. Wayne is if the ticket was substantially cheaper and they weren't adding on any of the additional Allegiant costs aside from their ticket.

Ultimate is not a major commercial airline. They fly public charter flights on a set schedule. Their website literally says they "provide public charter flights". They are not comparable to the major commercial airlines. Regardless of what you want to call them, it is fairly immaterial for the comparison I was doing. Allegiant at LCK matches Ultimate's annual total out of Lunken in just one month. If Allegiant was flying out of CMH instead of LCK, I wouldn't bother including LCK's numbers for my comparison. Correct. LCK totalled 307,247 passengers last year; 301,853 of those passengers coming from Allegiant. Lunken totalled about 50k last year. Ultimate's planes only seat 30-40 passengers while Allegiant's can hold 155-175 passengers.

Lunken just has charter operations. I only added LCK into CMH’s total because Allegiant, a major commercial airline, makes up almost all of its passenger total.

Columbus has always been the smallest airport of the the 3Cs. I simply compare to gauge it’s growth in relation to the next largest airport. It’s just interesting from a statistical standpoint. I combine two Columbus airports because we have two airports with commercial passengers operations, unlike Cincinnati. Allegiant flies out of LCK while all other airlines fly out of CMH. I combine the two in order to gauge total passenger growth for the city of Columbus. It’s unfortunate that you were offended by a simple statistical analysis.

Why would you be convinced of that? They are essentially the last non-urban components of the Short North. They are too valuable to not be developed.

It's disappointing that Highpoint ended up the way it did. You are correct though, when it was built just 8 years ago it was a pretty big deal. People knew, even back then, that it was a bit underwhelming, but it was still a big deal. We have come so far in just 8 years that now we have something like The Xander being built, with 220 units and 15,000 square feet of commercial space (compared to 300 units and 23,000 square feet of commercial space at Highpoint), and it's no big deal to anyone here.

Agreed. If there were two or three different developers splitting up those parcels, we definitely would have seen a few 15+ story buildings there. But when one developer has that much land, it just doesn't make sense to undergo the cost of going much higher than 6 or 7 stories. Highpointe has a little over 300 units I believe. How many floors would those 300 units require in a normal sized tower footprint? Probably at least 30, maybe more, once you factor in ground floor retail, work out facility, leasing office, utilities, etc.

It's really going to bother me that they are two different types of cranes lol I would imagine they will need a different crane to build the third tower crane as it will be about 70 feet taller than these two. Also, your crane sketch made me laugh ?