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Respectfully disagree. I think McCormack is a "big picture" guy... especially when the proposal isn't a fly by night operation

^^Okay where do I need to be, you guys lol

Hopefully an acoustically engineered room.

Amazing that some people can see an event like last night's City Stages in Hingetown and think that they want *less* of that in their neighborhood. I live about 500 feet away. Incredible event(s)

Why do I have a bad feeling about this? *Now, time for public comments* "HOW DARE THESE STRAIGHT WHITE MEN TREAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A COMMODITY AND INVEST CAPITAL, INCREASE DENSITY, AND THEREBY CREATE MORE MARKET OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES!? Plus, I don't like the awning. Thank you."

Honestly, if you want the ideal stadium for a restricted space, seating 6-10,000... look at "The Pit" at Cincinnati Elder - one of the most unique high school football atmospheres in the country, in part because the crowd is on top of you

I park at work, take the trolley, and leave the car sometimes (usually can't cut myself off enough to drive home :|)

Very true. Nothing grinds my gears more than hearing Clevelanders complain about f****** parking. REALLY!?!?! I walk all the time and that "pit" parking is much farther than you think. And it's mostly full as it stands now. There really isn't as much parking nearby as you might think. Understood, but I don't think anyone under the age of 40 looks at FEB and goes "I'm not going because I can't park and it takes forever to get out." Rather, they say "it takes forever to get out and I can't park, so I'll take a Lyft."

Lol I agree. Stadium in Ohio City, Detroit Shoreway, Tremont, Downtown, University Circle, Uptown, Little Italy, Edgewater = I'm buying season tickets. Stadium in Strongsville, Parma, Mentor, Shaker Heights, Westlake, Avon, Garfield = Cleveland has a USL team?

Thing is, free market didn't dictate this. East Cleveland is one of the few cities in fiscal trouble that I can look at and say "Conservative policy had nothing to do with this." This is decades of neglect, corruption, irresponsible spending, and cronyism. I would say this is a combination of market forces (10%), racism (both individual and federal policy (40%) corruption, etc (50%) I'd re-align that to 10/30/60

Thing is, free market didn't dictate this. East Cleveland is one of the few cities in fiscal trouble that I can look at and say "Conservative policy had nothing to do with this." This is decades of neglect, corruption, irresponsible spending, and cronyism.

10 cranes are visible from that street view alone

Someone's gonna tear that down and build a townhouse. Lol I've gotta get an updated pic for you guys

You are correct. It was listed on the market in 2013 for $20,000. My realtor showed me the old listing. Ugh. The bad comes with the good during neighborhood revival. F**ked up part is that a functionally condemned home appreciated 600% in five years... which is evidenced by the fact that they've received offers at this price.

It was sold in like 2011 for $30kish - KJP[/member] corrected me, nvm.

Yes, the house can be saved! That's what a historic district is all about. Do your demolition elsewhere. The house means something to someone out there. It has a history and it's part of the fabric that makes the district historic. There are enough Clevelanders out there who are interested in this sort of property to have the expertise to do the job right. What we were quoted would have been approximately $200-250k to save the house structurally, $30k-50k for any renovations we wanted, $2k to get the yards safe, plus whatever we are able to buy the home for.... so what was a $129k house just turned into $400k home.

Understood, and if they make 3% annually they've got $57,000 to spend on uniforms annually, which is nuts I assume this will be used for all sports, not just football. That's what the article indicated. Nonetheless, the best D3 programs, like Mount Union, Wisconsin Whitewater, Linfield, Wheaton, Sewanee, etc. probably recycle uniforms for each sport every 3 years. This endowment will allow Case to accelerate that. Really, only football, basketball, baseball, and softball require uniforms over $30/unit, and only football requires a high volume of them. Case is in a really good place with this. You wouldn't believe how big uniforms can be in the recruiting process.

Understood, and if they make 3% annually they've got $57,000 to spend on uniforms annually, which is nuts

Fortunately for OTR, it was a part of a major US city. East Cleveland is not. It has the crime of a Newark, Cleveland, Detroit, Cincinnati, Memphis, etc. without any of the resources. Combined that with some of the most corrupt politicians and city officials over the years, and you get EC.

It makes sense when you see that conservative media now attacks those with college educations as "elitists" and try to portray colleges as places where people are indoctrinated. It infuriates me how anti-intellectual Conservatism has come. No surprise that Hannity and Limbaugh both were unable to finish college. And don't tell me inferiority complexes about schooling aren't dangerous - eh hem........

As someone who actively raised money for my former college football program as recently as last year, $1.9 million for uniforms is BONKERS. We had nice, Nike Combat uniforms with stitched numbering, it totaled only $11,000 for 150 uniforms.

Oh wow, I would so love for a return of the Cleveland Force. To me it makes sense to be on the phone with CSU on a shared facility right now. It would be telling to know which developers the Abrams family is talking with. Please no suburbs!!! I take it as a positive sign that they purchased those youth clubs already. Shows they are serious, and having an integrated youth club alongside a pro club is the right way to run a team...it also can have business advantages through sponsorship, forming a built-in fanbase, and providing additional employment opportunities for the (mostly) part-time pros in the USL. The facility sounds like the biggest question mark, and I agree that a partnership with CSU would make a lot of sense, although I'm not sure if CSU has any formal roadmap for investing that much in athletics(?). Another moonshot idea of mine is to see if a stadium could work as part of the Scranton Peninsula development. And the owner of the project could build a bar 500 feet from the stadium... not a bad idea. Would Scranton aka THUNDERBOLT! be too far from St. Ignatius? Hmmmm I don't think the school would be interested in any permanent partnership with a professional team on-campus. Though, Ignatius has opined and even planned about building their own 9,000-12,000 seat stadium on or near campus. If the stadium was shared and not on the school's property, I could see it happening. Lord knows the school's coffers are deep enough.

An agrarian lifestyle has its appeal at times.

Unknown, but the site plan posted on the previous page, if still relevant, shows where it could rise. There's been some speculation in this thread that could include condos and/or be taller than Phase 1. One would hope that, considering it could be located on a visible street corner, that ground-level corner would have a high-traffic retailer or three. Let me see if I can get clearance on spewing some gossip here. There's some significant speculation that I've heard from people directly involved with OUC.