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I know I'm being Debby Downer here, and I apologize. But I pray that some of these projects see a conversion to condos sooner rather than later. But, I promise, I'm still estatic about the news

Does anyone have the most recent renderings??

Cut the people in the operations department some slack. Few things frustrate me more than people berating non-football material. I know the product on the field sucks, it does. But what do you want the people in sales and corporate relationships to say? "We suck, don't show up, I don't want this job anyways."

Cafe Sausalito opened today in the IMG building. Looks nice

I never asked for names. But actually, someone referred to an Apple blunder above, and I had heard that Apple was the company holding Pixar's hand in all of this. I don't have the type of sources that can get confirmation in any greater detail though

Sent a text this morning: Me: "Hey remember our conversation a while back re: Pixar moving some operations to Cleveland? You sure that the part about Jackson is true?" Source: "Lol yeah. When someone explains to u why ur not getting a contract u tend to remember why."

Have it from a person who was in the meeting the night before, who would've been contracted for part of the facility build. That's about as good as I can get with it - so unless he's just bitter and lying to me, I'm pretty confident about it.

I did, shortly after posting this. I'm sorry I forgot to relay it here. The source and story were both legit - Pixar was very close to opening here, and the meeting with the mayor was essentially a formality. However, the snub understandably angered the execs that made the trip out here, and they saw it as a reflection of how cooperative the city government would be.

Not sure if I am in the right thread for this. But I noticed Knight Frank has established a presence in Cleveland. I've seen a few of there signs around the city - this is terrific considering they largely maintain "premier" cities like NY, London, SF, Boston, etc.

This is great to hear. It seems like there's enough room there that you wouldn't need to close the street, especially if you re-orient the field and remove the softball field. I measure about a 500'x600' rectangle is available on that block. For context Cincinnati's Nippert Stadium is about 500'x600', so you could be a decent sized stadium on that footprint. What is that small brick building near the tennis courts? It will be interesting to see what's proposed. The softball field would likely be oriented abutting Payne, this is all contingent upon that building being moved. It is currently owned and operated by First Energy, but I've been told it isn't a critical part of their operations. Krenzler would then be shifted about 30* Southeast.

tastybunns[/member] I was in a meeting in December re: the arena. Don't be surprised to see announcements for a 5-6,000 seat arena announced by 2020. It will be smaller and focus on a more intimate student experience, with designated student sections. Additionally, there are talks underway to move the softball field, re-orient Krenzler field, and close E. 18th between Chester and Payne for additional bleachers. The plans for CSU lax are nothing short of grandiose. Additionally, there are projected to be 10,000 students within a half mile of campus by 2020 - with each year it becomes less and less of a commuter school. I graduated from high school in 2009 - 950 kids lived on campus at that time. CSU is undergoing a renaissance and I think it's wildly underappreciated.

Well, as a graduate of their law school, I can say this... Since I was accepted in Spring of 2014 until I graduate in Spring of 2017. Six new buildings have went up on campus and two sports have been added. In 2013 - 1,900 students lived within a half mile of campus. In 2018 - 5,100 students are projected to live within a half-mile of campus. The President - Ron Berkman - had gotten a lot of flack for his spending habits, but he's really done a great job turning the school away from the "commuter school" stigma.

That takes much more than you think. Back in 2007, when CSU was exploring the possibility of a football program, they were planning to expand into the MAC. The Horizon League is primarily commuter schools and really doesn't support this sort of thing - CSU would have to join a bigger conference for that to happen. CSU lax is in a premier conference, but that's only because the Horizon League does not offer lacrosse.

Nice find. My conjecture dies an early death

Wonder what plans he'll have for the church?? Don't be surprised to see a distillery. Misgivings aside, he's a smart businessman. I've talked to his counsel on numerous occasions and they always note that he's wanted to do a distillery.

carnevalem[/member] Loved your analysis... One critique, if I may... I think Atlanta is an outlier. We saw 68,000 come out to the Citrus Bowl to support Kaka's Orlando SC. Attendance at their new stadium, while strong, doesn't necessarily indicate any sustainability in a stadium of 30,000+. I'd argue the same for Bobby Dodd stadium and Atlanta. I think much of soccer's popularity has to do with first - geography, and second - availability of other season ticket options. The most devoted fanbases, I'd argue, are in the PNW. Portland and Seattle fill their seat allocations nearly every home match, and even travel well. Portland only offers the Trailblazers, and Seattle has the Mariners and Seahawks. Beyond that, the Cascadia region has a MASSIVE history of soccer, and that's a bit of an anomaly in America. There's a reason DC United and FC Dallas struggle to get fans through the gate, and it's not that there isn't great soccer played in their respective regions. It's that their areas are "football-first" and there are several other professional sports franchises to attend. MLS is in a unique spot to play in the summer to get more exposure, but that will inevitably deter international stars. If Cleveland wants to do a team the right way, it needs to start from scratch and play in the city. I'd posit that we cannot sustain a stadium that seats beyond 20,000. If I turn out to be wrong, build the stadium in a way that allows for expansion. I just fear that a team will never take off if we keep playing at glorified HS stadiums.

^Who knows. I work in the building, and the whole construction process and management of the space/building has been a disaster

^That will put some employees in a precarious position... no?

That's interesting. What's wild to me is that Brickstone appears to be vacant for the foreseeable future.

No doubt. St. Ignatius and CVCA are consistently 2 of the top soccer programs in the nation.

And this team will too fail.

^If the Crew stay in Columbus and Cincy gets a team, 3 will be too much for Ohio

Me too. That one had an incredible pipe organ and the acoustics were amazing as well. Hello there Rheingeist North

^The whole of Erieview will be converted to residential? I pray that's not true