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^ Well l don't dream of buildings when l'm sleeping but l have to admit when l'm trying to fall asleep one of my go to thoughts is how the Cleveland skyline is coming along. Nerd.

^ Interesting. I've lived in and around Lakewood a good chunk of my life and never knew this was happening. Are these conversions of the ubiquitous Lakewood doubles or different kinds of houses?

Well that's a start. So here's a question for you Ken. In your article you listed all the agencies who will be consulted for their imput. Is that an indication of great leadership and communication by all the necessary parties or is it a sign bureaucratic inertia?

Yeah, l ain't no speller.

Jesus! We act like building any kind of rail in this country is akin to going to the moon. While the rest of the world continues to fund, build, maintain and USE rail, in America we act like it's kryptonite. What is wrong with us?

Great news for me!! It's a (very) little thing but l think their baggles are the best and since l retired from the Clinic and live in Lakewood l haven't been able to get them very often. Oh, and good news on the adaptive re-use of a church too lol.

Build some recreational islands offshore. There should be no shortage of uses for the river dredging.

Pro and con TIF proponents can legitimately make their case. I'll side with the pro group as l'm a believer in maximizing strengths. If investment creates something greater than what previously existed and the subsequent increased taxes are rolled back into it that can help it maintain that that progress and grow even more. A virtuous circle. Blaine Griffith said it best. Any taxes lost to the whole will be made up by growing the tax base as the entire region grows.

This project is one of the most intriguing investments in our economy in decades. Of course it remains to be seen and the Kent impact study may be wildly optimistic BUT these are exactly the kind of investments that Cleveland needs if it wishes to remain relevant in the new economy taking shape over the next century. Welcome to Cleveland- now get started!

We often use the Chicago lakefront as the shoreline to emulate. I actually prefer Toronto's because of the more convoluted shoreline as well as those islands. It's just more interesting geographicly.

I think Blitzer's investment in Canton is a great way to increase his local involvement. And as @Dougalsaid it's a nice practice session for the real investment in Cleveland.

Great reporting Ken. 2024 may be the necessary pause as these projects solidify their plans as well as waiting for interest rates to begin to dtop. Looking forward to 2025 although patience is not my strong suit lol.

So reading between the lines a power company buys land on which a former power plant was located to build... another power plant? Say it ain't so Jo(Ken).

Like others here l hate to see them be forced to move to Avon. I get that because of their success (super) they need a lot more space but this DOES seem like a perfect opportunity to kill two birds with one stone i.e. expand somewhere along the opportunity corridor. When l use that road it does seem there is still an awful lot of vacant land just waiting for development. Ohio City land is too limited. The Flats probably too. I see an opportunity here - no pun intended. I don't know if GLBC has made a call but hopefully someone on either the city or GLBC side has broached this.

Agreed

Well if we're going to compare cities MSA is the fairest way. You get a more apples to apples comparison. Big geographic cities will have a natural advantage because they are not a reflection of the true size of a metro. And small geographic cites within a much larger region don't tell an accurate story either. The CSA which does not show the Akron area is a large undercount of our region. MSA is simply the most factual way to determine the size and clout of a region.

"Get what you pay for." OK, but does it really cost so much more to do a little checking before you submit your work? Or maybe that's just how we do things today.

I mean...shouldn't a basic level of fact checking numbers/images be a requirement? Sloppy. When l was working avoidable mistakes like that would have resulted in a reprimand. Today no one cares.

One thing I can't stand about life in present day America is the absolutely ridiculous amount of time it takes to get anything done due to the bureaucracy. It's embarrassing.

Columbus has been on a roll for awhile now and l think with Intel and a few other huge investments it's growth rate will begin to rapidly increase. Investment begets investment. Growth begets growth. Being the capital is one thing but I think the real catalyst is OSU. We can only hope our local universities could follow suit. Even the University of Cincinnati provides a much greater economic impact than Cleveland State which, while undergoing a decent physical upgrade continues to see enrollment shrink.

Now let's hope a stronger economy leads to population growth.

From the article the two flanking buildings are not mentioned. Doesn't it seem reasonable that if the center is rehabbed at some point the outer two will be also? None of them are all that big so unless they haven't deteriorated too much from lack of maintenance let's hope it won't be too long before we have more good news here.

The Centennial is our white whale. While we're focusing on all these new projects downtown this building is sitting there waiting for a hero. It's massive. It's on the most important intersection downtown. And right now its like a black hole capable of sucking in all the buildings around it. That can't be allowed to happen. Too finally figure out a way to make it not just productive but the asset it should be will take real leadership and cooperation from the community. This building is too important to remain as is until it is torn down.

I think all this talk about parking is missing the point here. If you focus on the newly created land and even more importantly the shape of that land you will see something rarely done in these parts. An actual natural looking shoreline not that unnatural geometric infill we have gotten in the past. The infill on the downtown shoreline is an unimaginative, industrial example of a lack of vision. A dumbed down missed opportunity. This new project finally creates what we should have been doing all along. Think the Toronto Islands. A natural and convoluted shoreline. A great place to escape the city and yet it's right off the shoreline. An amazing view of the skyline. They did it. So should we have. It wouldn't even have cost all that much more. After all, the river was already being dredged. We were already using it to create new land. Think outside the box a little. I love this town but too many times we settle for mediocrity (or worse). Often the difference between bad and good is a little thought and leadership. I think we are finally on the upswing again. As long as we're going to be doing new things let's try to raise the bar on our expectations.

Count me in as a big fan of the Main Avenue Bridge. Crossing it from west to east has the best view of downtown plus its hulking (or is it graceful?) mass as seen from the Flats is a great visual piece of sculpture. It is a wonderful place setter for the Flats. The Bridge manages to grab both the east and west side and makes the Flats special. Remove it and the Flats is just a wide river valley - nothing distinctive.