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How is a good question, was that a typo?

I already expressed how I love this but side note: that is definitely the best angle of our skyline. It shows balance and Density

It's great to finally be able to forget about projects because so much is going on.

Isn't this BRT Lite, similar to the Cleveland State Line? Also isn't it with traditional buses?

MASSIVE, I love this.

Which is strange because with a unified system it shouldn't be hard to do. Instead of that "Purple line extension" to the Muni Lot, have that train leave stokes for Van Aken.

I find it fascinating that Old/Original Columbus faced similar decline its peer cities like Cleveland and Cincinnati faced for decades. I also find it interesting how small of a population the old Columbus had, it was even smaller than Cincinnati at its peak, what was the size of the original area in Sq. Miles? Can anyone from Columbus explain to me why they felt the old boundaries saw decline while the new boundaries seemingly boomed?

Stokes West was a much better name. This name makes no sense.

I said this in another thread but I don't think the Van Aken development will spur transit ridership until we unify the system completely, and add those "extra lines". Thus allowing people in places like East Cleveland who don't own vehicles to take a one train trip to Van Aken. I live in Glenville and would use it due to the hassle of taking the street and sitting in traffic. That extension is where we'll see the real increases because it connects people to areas that weren't connected before. Edit: I misspoke the only "extension" from Windermere would be from Stokes to the Muni Lot, that would be a waste of potential.

Cleveland doesn't handle these situations well, from what I understand they angered John D. Rockefeller as well.

I'm from the East side and it still is Lorain-Carnegie to me lol.

What was his comments?

I have real skepticism that it will be.

Oh yeah that's my point I agree completely. That's why I said the worst thing that could happen to Jimmy, Mayor Bibb is loving this right now.

I'm hoping it is in the Playhouse Square/Chester area. It would provide balance to a skyline that is very heavy to the west.

Honestly, I feel like the worst thing that could happen to Jimmy Haslam and his Brookpark plans is Cincinnati needing stadium funding at the exact same time. With Hamilton County saying to the state "you can't give Cleveland everything", leads me to believe my original thought, Ohio isn't trying to open pandoras box by giving Cleveland an unprecedented $600 Million dollars (but won't give transit $3 but that's a different story). It would cause chaos imo and to appease everyone I feel that number will be scaled back dramatically. If Cleveland was alone in wanting stadium money Haslam may have gotten away with $400-$600 Million in funding from the state but his timing couldn't have been worse. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2024/09/what-we-know-and-whats-different-about-plans-for-nfl-stadiums-in-cleveland-and-cincinnati.html

Well depending on the upcoming election maybe they'll revisit this (I doubt it).

This is so strange I have never seen a project be handled like this.

I appreciate that Cleveland understands that the Metroparks is better suited to building/rebuilding our public spaces though. I have to give them all the credit for giving control of park areas like Gordon Park and Edgewater to them.

But didn't the Red Line have great ridership up until the 80's/90s? So you feel we still wouldn't have built around those lines?

What if Cleveland was able to build any of their Downtown Subway plans such as the one that almost passed in (I believe in 1955)? Or what if Cleveland built the Dual Hub Corridor? We all know TOD is a buzz phrase that people use to talk about the impact transit can have on urban planning and development now. Do you all think that with a subway system connecting to more parts of the city would have had an impact on the city in terms of continued development, at least slowing the decline? Or do you all feel that the mindset of people back then towards transit would have led to the system experiencing disinvestment and decline similar to NYC in the 70s and 80s? I know a lot of factors led to Cleveland's decline but I am curious if we would have scaled back our "Urban renewal" mindset and instead built neighborhoods around the Subway system with density similar to how we built our early neighborhoods around Streetcars. I have attached the 1955 plan if you all are unfamiliar and the link with the various failed plans. https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/361

Until I read your post I looked at this image and said "Why would you want an 800 space garage?" lol.

I took that as a snarky response like you were asking the obvious to him. I'm probably wrong though.

Maybe place my name next to an available phone charging station within the park.

I also feel/hope that the BRT project should truly be the thing that dramatically shrinks the street. The reason that the area by the WSM is walkable (outside of the shops) is that it FEELS walkable. The portion of West 25th by this project feels like a car sewer which is something that is abnormal for the near west side imo. In order to attract foot traffic the people need to feel that they can walk safely. But it is definitely amazing to see the gap slowly but surely close. The Irishtown Bend project definitely will accelerate that, in the next 5-10 years this area will be one of, if not the most vibrant sections in the city.