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Maybe they meant modern skyscrapers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Was that really the type of housing we had near league park??? I’m gonna be sick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’d imagine Washington DC would see the same type of explosion if they ditched their limit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Any news on this? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

During the dialogue after the presentation the CPC made the case that there already is a sea of parking in the flats and we have already lost so many buildings on the National Registry (25 buildings was a number mentioned). They mentioned this being in an overlay zoning area and that was done to create a walkable vibrant neighborhood. They said that although all buildings can’t be saved we need to save as many as they can. Essentially they have postponed all demolitions of the buildings until they can come back with a clearer site plan and they also want to see a site plan that shows what it would look like with the 4 story building there. They are giving Nautica a chance to make their case to demolish the building but you can tell they strongly prefer keeping the 4 story building. Nautica didn’t come off as prepared and played the game of “Well Dad said no let me go to mom, I know she’ll say yes”. So a temporary win for now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m watch the planning commission on YouTube and Nautica’s case to demolish the historic buildings is essentially “no one knows what was here before anyway”. They are proposing reusing materials and adding a plaque to explain what was there. Why not renovate it and add the plaque anyway? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ll take the win wherever I can Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You still have to put your foot down sometimes, we seem to okay demolition without any hesitation ESPECIALLY in the West Bank. When is enough enough down there? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I find Cleveland to be extremely hypocritical if they really allow the demolition. How do you want to build a 15 minute city and continue to allow your historic urban fabric to be destroyed and become “temporary” parking lots. It literally does the opposite, either you’re serious about 15 minute cities or your not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ahhh thanks for the explanation. I do feel that 935 parking spaces is extreme overkill, especially with so many lots nearby. I feel they could partner with nearby lots for the office workers in the building to allow those underground spaces to be for the W Hotel and apartments. When I worked in Key Tower we could park in its underground lot or other nearby lots. I ended up parking in the Lincoln Building and walked down (thought about catching the redline but the cost was equal to my monthly parking pass cost), I would imagine they could do the same here. I’m sure there are garages empty enough to satisfy the needs of office workers nearby, especially Post-Pandemic life. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Since the legislation has passed how long does it take to go into effect? Is it immediate or is this a Fiscal year 2024 thing? Do developers looking for zoning approval right now just go forward with what they have without the need of approval? Is that requirement immediately stopped? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My thing about the 500 indoor parking spaces is this. When that building was built I’m sure they built a garage underground that could hold the capacity of a full 40 story tower (in the 1970s when the Downtown Cleveland and Cleveland population was much higher). So why do they need 500 MORE parking spaces? That seems like extreme overkill. Also does the recently passed TDM only affect new builds or do redevelopments fall up under that as well? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Is this apart of the zoning overlay, requiring commercial spaces to be built? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I avoid the Cleveland Historic Thread for this very reason. I cry on the inside. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

https://x.com/mattm178/status/1691919162938110093?s=46 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I might cry tears of joy! 🥹🥹🥹 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He can’t even get a handle on Twitter right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s official, San Francisco continues to bleed office workers. Elon Musk is here to negotiate office space to transfer Twitter/X workers here. Cheaper office space and cost of living was too much for him to pass on. I’m obviously joking but that would break the internet if it were true lol. In all seriousness the NASA Glenn thing makes the most sense. If he was doing a cliffs visit why wouldn’t he fly into Burke, closer to Downtown where Cliffs has its HQ and is literally where a lot of jets take off and land at. Landing at Hopkins instead, where NASA Glenn is located makes too much sense to be a coincidence. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Seems like NEOTrans is down for me so I can’t fully verify this but with Medical Mutual leaving didn’t that leave the Rose Building almost completely empty? At 381,000 sq. Feet and sitting on a prominent and busy corner, I’d imagine a move and redevelopment of that building would make more sense financially. I feel that pre-pandemic a tower would make sense but with so many people giving back their office space there are a number of options available. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Long overdue but $8 an hour to park in Downtown Cleveland would be absolutely ridiculous. Personally I take the redline most times though. Also if they are going to make this digital parking a thing, how about getting rid of those ridiculous police orders that restrict parking in certain areas. I’m an urban enthusiast it annoys me but I’ll deal with it. Those who are visiting from the suburbs are less willing to deal with the inconvenience and choose not to come downtown. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I love the pace of this project. Midtown may not turn into Atlanta’s with high rise buildings left and right but a dense urban environment with attractive multistory/mid rise buildings would be just as exciting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is what creative preservation looks like (Skip to the 20 minute and 30 second mark). Minneapolis had a sears department store that looked eerily similar to the one Cleveland clinic tore down recently. Instead of tearing theirs down they repurposed it to an active market space. That would’ve done wonders down by the Clinic. Reactivating an area that is so closed off. It also ties into a discussion we were having in another thread about Cleveland tearing too much down from our past and how cities like Pittsburgh (and apparently Minneapolis) do better and repurposing their past. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This YouTube video highlights what Minneapolis does very well (as well as something’s they can improve on). I watched it and I saw a lot of similarities to Cleveland (Lake access, BRT, Light Rail, Industrial history and underutilized bridges). They utilize all of those things a lot better than we do and I felt this was something that Cleveland could learn from. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How much office space would be available in the flats after EY leaves? I would assume a substantial amount of that building is empty, but maybe I’m wrong. If they do acquire them and they want to build a new office building two locations are emerging at the perfect time. One is obviously Dan Gilbert’s Riverfront project, the other is Circle square. Located right by the opportunity corridor and highway, combined with the location of various top notch attractions and college (CWRU) and the office component potentially being the next phase, I think this location would be a dark horse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Destination Cleveland should really be working to get this building along with City Club into shots for national broadcast as the browns season approaches. Just like the whole google earth thing, what people are shown is outdated so they have an old mindset on Cleveland. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk