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The LG Science park makes me want them to build it in Midtown now lol.

Looking at this picture, I definitely vote for the Weston/Jacob site. It is already a site that has taken forever to get anything viable to build there, it is the site where the best and biggest of Cleveland's buildings and companies should go because it is basically the welcome area in Downtown for tourists, residents and workers. A tower on that site from a company with the stature would put a stamp on the re-arrival of Cleveland as a city and show off how far we've come from our low point. This site would be perfect for more of a mixed use neighborhood with restaurants or other amenities that would ignite that area immediately. Tower City on the inside is already about to get a shot in the arm with a mixed use complex full of retail, office and overall new energy, continuing that by constructing a development that allows people to leave the mall and have EVEN MORE to do. Constructing a mixed use building possibly the size of the Convention Center that was proposed on the site that connects to the rail line and is built over the existing parking lot would create a WHITE HOT area immediately. Combine that with landscaping, maybe a walkway or boardwalk similar to the flats would liven the area up and still help with the momentum of the scranton Peninsula. The Scranton Peninsula is supposed to be Cleveland's next big neighborhood. If we build a development across the river that COMPLIMENTS it and continues the vibrancy that it is supposed to create it will make for a much more pleasant and enjoyable area overall. A development that will most likely cut off public access doesn't do much to add energy to an already dull and lifeless area that is already underserved. Imagine this building maintaining a similar size and site plan but with a few more floors as mixed use/retail:

Sale of Richmond Town Square mall, demolition coming soon RICHMOND HEIGHTS, Ohio -- After the news arrived last week that the Belle Oaks at Richmond project had increased in value from $90 million to $195 million, more news comes that the sale of the Richmond Town Square mall site to developer DealPoint Merrill is expected to come soon, and that work on the project could be sped up. DealPoint Merrill CEO David Frank appeared Tuesday (Oct. 29) night at a Richmond Heights Community Conversations event at the Kiwanis Lodge at Richmond Heights Community Park. Frank spoke individually with city leaders and residents while showing off designs for a second phase of plans. Eventually, the entire mall will be demolished, with the exception of the CubeSmart and the Regal Cinema, which is now negotiating with DealPoint Merrill to remain at the mall site. Where the mall now stands will be 300-plus new luxury apartments and a few townhouses, which will also be leased. Parking will be constructed underground, under these apartments. I actually was hoping that the mall would stay with retail also being established in the new buildings, creating an environment similar to Easton mall in Columbus.

Wow that's desolate over there. Yikes

Yeah I have Downtown, they are pretty cool and definitely expanding. I'm sure they'll only invest these in hotbed areas like UC, DT, OC, Tremont etc. I know they have one under wraps at the corner of 105th and Ashbury next to the Circle North building. I would love to see the other new way finding signs that Are downtown be expanded (the orange and black ones) throughout the city to replace the old triangular ones.

Was reserve square supposed to be much more pleasing design wise initially?

I stopped into the Verizon to check out a phone and as I was playing with the phone I overheard a conversation talking about various cities, then it came back to Cleveland. The employee mentioned that he had a friend that moved from NYC and wanted to live in Little Italy when he moved to Cleveland. The employee mentioned that he told his friend, "Why? You're only going to have 3 blocks of doing anything, outside of Little Italy after 10 o'clock the sidewalks dry up for the night." He then went on to mention he has a friend that moved to ONE University Circle and HATED it, she said there isn't anything to walk to or shop at and that Constatino's was an AWFUL grocery store. She later moved to Beachwood. My point of posting this is we have these East Coast transplants moving here and are either getting told not to move here do to lack of activity or HATE it due to the striking difference from East Coast neighborhoods. MRN has done a MAGNIFICENT job at maintaining retailers and arguably has turned the corner when it comes to attracting national retailers (Chase) and shopping retail (Verizon), but he is running out of space to continue that momentum. If UC wants to attract and MAINTAIN those young East Coast transplants used to shopping and amenities it may be time for the area to make a concerted effort to make Uptown and beyond a destination for shopping and activities. Right now the focus is on workers and college students but as this neighborhood continues to grow with permanent residents it may need to begin focusing on retail that caters to them. The apartment building next to Uptown getting constructed would be a good start but it is a long shot based on who their target is. Uptown needs to take a page from the Short North strategy, it has a nice mixture for all parties and groups. I just wanted to share this, it was interesting to hear perspectives from out of state transplants and to also hear how people who work in Uptown view it when it comes to living there.

Ok thank you

I'm genuinely confused at the Circle North Apartments retail section. When you ride past it the building looks like it is being build for office/meeting space, it's filled with office chairs and I believe TV's. Am I missing something? What's going on?

When it comes to the actual Uptown development, besides the sit down restaurants when the development first finished closing and Corner Alley, the same retailers for the most part have been there since 2008. MASSIVE names that don't open new locations very often, especially in city limits (Chase and Verizon) recently set up shop as well. The secret is find out what works for your demographic and hire people that have legitimate pull and skill when it comes to attracting retail shops. That is what MRN has done and continues to do, which is why the small vacancies they did have were occupied relatively quickly, look at what they did with the MASSIVE Corner Alley space. To bring it back to this development if they follow the MRN blueprint and make sure they understand their demographic down here and hire the right people that have pull to attract retail to the development they will be fine.

From what I understand, while they were doing the initial search and pegged the Jacobs/Weston Lots, the city had plans for it which angered SHW and through a roadblock in their search. SHW flexed their power (rightfully so) and now they have the green light because the city stepped aside, also rightfully so. Imagine losing SHW downtown because you wanted to build a prison LMAO.

Looked it up on google maps and when I turned the corner I was pleasantly surprised with how large that building is.

I don’t know if it’s just the operator or something new that RTA is having the operator do but they now are telling you the ETA for the end of line and downtown as well as which buses connect to the stops. Very convenient, the train is filthy though.

This corner has 4 soon to be 5 high rises and I didn't even realize. If the buildings were mixed use this would be a VERY lively corner.

I'm sorry but the grass in front of the garage still makes no sense lol. I know it's fixable but still.

I don't understand why they have to block off so much of the street to build this.

They are. Talking to Verizon workers at the University Circle store the main reason they opened in the area was their focus on 5G in Cleveland. Cleveland actually has been a 5G focus for a lot of the carriers. I know T-MOBILE pushed 5G to Cleveland, we were one of their first 6 cities to receive it.

No this is Glenville, Ashbury Avenue is relatively close to the Circle North development. Glenville is pretty large. Hough is further down 105th closer to Fairfax and Cleveland Clinic.

Update of the apartment project on Ashbury

Well to make an area vibrant that wasn't before (In this case Superior) you put something that gives people a reason to patronize the area. Literally right around the corner on W. 6th you have activity and shops and this could serve as development to build on that. TBH developments that sit on the corners and intersections of street are THE MOST necessary to have retail because they set the tone for an area. Since an area is already dead we shouldn't build something that changes that? We should add to the dead zone feel? The opposite should be happening if we are trying to create a true mixed used neighborhood for the future. Retail spaces sit empty to me because the company in charge of finding retail in that area isn't skilled enough to answer the call and get people there. For example Uptown is bustling with shops and retail and HUGE work and living population with growth and Little Italy has the same and is always busy, but Centric has empty windows in it's retail shops. Prime location sitting next to two bustling areas but can't capitalize because the group in charge of finding retail tenants probably isn't up to the task. MRN consistently finds tenants for its retail properties, it is all about who is in charge.

That's depressing and infuriating, I hate the shortsighted and one track (or car lane) mind of this state leadership and government agencies.

Honestly, I'd rather build the space for retail that may be filled a year down the line when the market may be ready for it than to build a blank wall that adds nothing to the street and is an extra and expensive cost to reverse just because we already have empty storefronts. These types of developments are one shot deals, there is no re-do for a LOOOOOONG time. Build for the long term vision of a neighborhood not the short sighted present day.

Tell Dan Gilbert to let the city borrow any leftover bollards so they can FINALLY put some on Public Square ?

You missed the conversation about that portion I see.

The O in the Rocket annoys me lol.