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Yes, based on this rendering floors 2 and 3 are at least double height and the 4th floor looks quadruple height? The

Just noticed this thread was started way back in 2010. It'd be nice to finally see some movement here. There's a lot of potential with these buildings.

I really like this proposal, particularly the preservation of the older office building. I think if they wrap the garage with something then we'll be in business. To everyone who complains about a lack of retail, everytime you buy something on Amazon a downtown proposal has retail square feet scratched off its blueprints. *Partially kidding, but in a world where you can have toilet paper delivered in 2 hours who needs retail. People can only drink so many cups of coffee or go to so many bars and even these types of things do well in clusters, not on islands. I'm so tired of hearing complaints about retail.

I know this design and plan is subject to change, but if the final product looks anything like this, the project will be incredible. I also, find it hard to believe that the warehouse stays a warehouse with this type of project going up next door.

Yeah, I also thought the bridge being wider was just a function of them needing to build a new bridge around and under an active rail line. It's probably much easier to spend money making the bridge a bit wider and keeping the line open than it would be to shut anything down.

I like the site plan, normally I'd prefer the garage be faced with apartments on all sides, but in this case the garage faces a 670 on-ramp so I'm not worried about it.

I'm still surprised they are positioning this building such that it blocks the downtown views of the rest of Jeffery Park. I know, I know, views aren't guaranteed, but they're still trying to sell $500k condos here, you'd think they'd place the height on the far eastern edge of the site to make their sales people's lives a little easier. If it was just apartments, I get it, who cares, but you'd think having that roof top deck actually look at something would help things sell/increase the pricing.

So I'm a huge fan of the painted Yardley Manufacturing Co. sign. Does anyone know the history there? Really hoping it's not just some nonsense marketing gimmick they made up.

I think it looks really nice, but I'm still a little let down. NRI actually has the capital to do more interesting things, they just seem so risk averse. I thought the sell through rates on the 2 more recent parks edge buildings would push them to want to maximize their investment and go taller, but I guess not. Still will be nice to have this section of the arena district complete.

I'm a little confused, do you mean this 6 inch strip around the top? I wouldn't say that changes the look of the building in any meaningful way. I would think the 10 story mural would make up for it.

Being from Dayton looking at those NCR pictures really stings...

I think there's a little bit of a difference between building in an empty parking lot next to a highway and tearing down buildings along our cities most prominent street. Not every old building is worth preserving, but I think these should have been saved and incorporated somehow. Otherwise if just tear everything down you end up with the ugly bland could be anywhere newness that is campus now.

Could be worse, I'm still at dirt lot 0' 65 posts in. I'd kill for just construction fencing.

They built it for $60M, that's a 20% return in just a couple years. I hope that encourages them to reinvest that back into a new project.

They redid the street in Old North Columbus around 10 years ago (photo evidence from a senior crawl), I doubt they're going to make any changes any time soon.

So I love this project but can someone explain to me how they've spent all this time and money designing this project, but when it came time for the logo someone just looked at their Google GSuite account and was like "let's just use this" Edit: I guess they did add that dot, so there's that... (I also don't know why this bothers me)

I disagree. Let's keep the buildings and focus on renovation. We need them to offset the ugliness they just threw in across the street. Plus this site has been awarded State and Federal Historic Tax Credits before (that have since expired) so I would hope that increases the Edwards Co. chances of getting them again. Plus per the Biz First article they already have a $51.2 million bank loan and $3.4 million in federal historic preservation tax credits, and would commit another $1.9 million in equity as well, so it seems like they're pretty buttoned up this go around.

So I'm not expecting a super tall here, but what does give me hope for decent size and decent quality is that in the last few years the Wolfe family, who owns Capitol Square Ltd., has transitioned from a media focus to a real estate focus. I think this makes them interested in developing a signature building and has given them the cash (Dispatch $47M and WBNS $535M) to do so.

Confluence Park has some great views but it's so boxed in by highways, on-ramps, and a 6 lane wide spring street, it might as well be confluence island. You could maybe get office users to tolerate that, but I'd have a hard time seeing residential. It's a shame it's so isolated.

I really like this updated design. I could understand pushback if they had proposed tearing down a historic building to build this in the middle of German Village, but this is a parking lot location along an overgrown highway on the fringe of neighborhood. If you were playing SimCity and wanted to plop down a new building, this is where you'd put it.

Understanding that this is super off-topic... Lawns aren't really a run-off issue, I mean, yes, trees and native prairie plants with bigger root systems absorb more water than your average grass lawn, but the issue is the impermeable surfaces like your roof, driveway, sidewalks, etc. Those are what prohibit natural absorbtion and force run-off. This doesn't really have anything to do with plot size of your lawn, in fact a larger lawn can help absorb and mitigate water runoff. Permeable concrete or asphalt would actually make a difference, but my understanding is that the freeze thaw cycle can crack these apart. But I think the parking spots at the Scioto Audubon are permeable asphalt and those seem to have held up, so who knows. Haha but yes, consider me a NIMFY on the rain gardens. But I'm pro most other developments in Clintonville, especially on High, so no need to run me off the boards.

I understand it's a creative solution to allow the city to avoid building another expensive OARS style tunnel to get themselves in compliance with the clean water act. The goal is important and I hope they work because we should avoid pouring literal sh*t in the river. However, I think you're overselling it. If money wasn't an object the actual solution is to eliminate combined sewer systems. This is the shoestring MacGyver version of a fix. I hope it works, but again, I'm glad there isn't one in front of my house.

This is going to sound very grumpy old man, but I could care less if they build a parking garage, but they better not ask me to pay for it.

They aren't the worst thing in the world, but that said I'm pretty glad they didn't put one near my house. They were better maintained than I thought they'd be, but it's still basically a drainage ditch they put in your tree lawn.

Can you expand on the materials discussion? I only ask because anything fiber cement that goes up in this city ends up looking like wavy garbage. So as long as it's not that, then I'm on board. I also love the idea of the bar being open on non-game days. It's easy for stadiums to seem abandoned the majority of the year, but I could see that place being popular before events at the other arenas or as a great place to watch soccer games from around the league/world. I think it has a ton of potential to make the place feel active even when the Crew aren't playing.