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I appreciate the attempt to go tall instead of tearing everything down. Hopefully they're able to make that plan work.

Spoiler Alert: Wyatt is really Dolores

Wow, I didn't even recognize this corner at first. It's definitely come a long way from a taxi depot and liquor carryout

I don't know, it's seems like they can't build hotels fast enough. Why not this one, it's a good location.

I wonder if all the people who've recently bought their $450k condos with rooftop views of downtown know that's the plan. I imagine that height would block alot of that. I know your not entitled to a view, but they do make it part of the selling point and they're the ones developing the whole project. I'd be a little upset

I will say I don't really like that angle, it looks too stout and bland, but the view from the park is actually pretty cool

I also noticed last week that they had demolished the warehouse there that used to be along the northwest side of the site, just south of Fifth.

Ask and you shall receive CU Construction Roundup: Downtown/Franklinton

Yes, this. Easton is trying to get denser. I remember reading somewhere that the Easton developers regretted isolating the original residential component as much as they did. Now is the new section as sense as bridge park definitely not, but it's trending more that way. The section they're now spending a half a billion on "is designed to have a Short North-like feel meant to appeal to young professionals in particular." it's going to incorporate residential and the renders show some 5/6 story buildings.

This from the Columbus Underground Article "“We were so happy to be able to back away from our retail plan,” said Mark Wagenbrenner, President of Wagenbrenner Development. He explained that, because the new land was never used as a landfill, taller and heavier buildings could be constructed on top of it (like a parking garage, which in turn facilitates more density and a mix of uses)." I'm not an engineer, but I'll believe him.

This is much better than the original big box retail focused development. I think what limits this developments density is that it's almost all built over land fill. The only area that can support parking garages, has parking garages in the plan, which necessitates the remaining parking lots. That said I hope they fill up Dublin Road with retail. It'd be nice to see that fill in.

I would argue that makes them not like Clintonville.

I'm not writing it off yet. Cbus Biz First had an article on it just this past November and the building got taller and had a stated intention to break ground in the spring. I'll let that deadline come and go before I give up hope. Besides people in Cleveland have been waiting since 2014 to figure out if NuCLEus is going to get built, I feel like we can hold out a bit longer for our own stupidly named tower.

I don't get the NIMBYism and wonder if it will subside as the Clintonville becomes younger. It seems like everyone complains about traffic/property values when buildings are proposed. But do these, I'm assuming older people, not realize that the younger people moving in want neighborhood amenities? I understand Clintonville has a pretty hot housing market, I don't get the resistance.

Separately from the arena, I'm wondering why Crawford Hoying doesn't go taller for any of these buildings. Their office components are 100% leased, their condos sell out, I think the apartments are doing well. Overall, the project has been incredibly successful. However, it seems to me that they're land locked a bit. I'm curious why they wouldn't build maybe a 10 story office or condo building rather than keeping everything at 5/6 floors. You'd think it would help them maximize the available land and could provide a view of old Dublin/the river front park for some of blocks farther to the east if they went higher. Do costs increase substantially above 6 floors?

I was very surprised by the age of the structure

I also thought it was concrete block. It looks like a fancy bomb shelter

They built a retail focused building where it made sense, on North 4th. That's the street that should be developed as a commercial mixed use corridor. There's plenty of vacancy (including at Kramer Place across the street) and under-utilized space there. No one in Jeffery Park is more than 1,200 ft from North 4th. I don't understand how people expect to force a coffee shop or artisanal bakery every 30 feet. No one eats that much bread!

Meh. Were people expecting a 20 story building here? Another 3-4 mixed use building like the one bareburger is in would have been ideal. But I think a one story strip mall complex isn't the end of the world the one up closer to Henderson with the hot chicken takeover, little eater, North Star, and Jenny's can be super successful, and delicious. Now a Great Clips isn't as exciting, but if they build it up with a good street presence it can be a positive. Now what should be absolutely prohibited is something like the new Verizon box store on northeast corner of the Broadway/High intersection. It depresses me everytime I see it. Lastly, all this concern about traffic is ridiculous and if they're worried about children crossing the street to get to school they should open back up the underground high street crossing in front of the school (that was built after a kid was hit and killed by a street car)

Wagenbrenner didn't build the $1M exposed plywood building, that was the one Jeffery park lot they didn't own. Those were built by Mulberry. I think Wagenbrenner has overall done a nice job turning a huge empty lot into a neighborhood. The northern street wall is a little bit monotonous and the placement of the town homes is a bit odd in some places. But I've been in some them and they seem nicely done inside and out.

I can't wait for this. It's either gonna be great or it's gonna be awful, but I'm excited regardless

A lot of those buildings do have roof decks, including the original LC buildings, for what it's worth. From an economic perspective I don't see how the downtown commission could force these developers to include ground floor retail when a good chunk of the retail in the area is empty. Highpoint still has vacancies, the older buildings across the street (where I think rent would be cheaper) are all empty, the old salt and pine restaurant space in 250 is empty. You have to start by getting people down there first, then the retail/restaurants will follow.

I'm not a huge fan of this plan. But I recently moved out of this area and now I'm lazy so I just park in one of the garages most of the time. But it was nice to be able to just grab a spot on one of the side streets now and then and not have to worry about it. Now you have to move your car every 3 hours and pay via the app which seems like a downgrade. Also, I know this is an unpopular opinion but the bus sucks. That's why people who don't have to take it generally don't. You also still have to pay with exact change, right? That alone makes it awful.

I'm with you on the little strip mall, but I like the Greystone building, it's a neat ivy covered contrast to some of the newer structures going up on that corner.

My guess is that they would use the existing garages and lots which service Huntington Park and Nationwide Arena. That's one of the things I like best about this location, you don't need to have massive lots surrounding the stadium due to the existing parking infrastructure that's just a short walk away.