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I imagine this is the next step. When it seemed clear things were going sideways one of the members of the development team told an anecdote about how he was involved in trying to raise a sign. I guess the code height limit is 8 ft and the sign was at 4 ft, but became less visible because of a road project so when they went to raise it to the code height it was denied and a commissioner said "in Dublin we expect you to go above and beyond the code" Then he mentioned how they easily one the court appeal and were able to raise the sign.

Yeah agreed, I thought the whole point of the Bridge Street District was that it is the designated area for density in Dublin. Like everything else can be SFH and office parks, but this area is for people who want to be in Dublin but can only afford to/want to rent. One of the commissioners also made an off-hand comment about how expensive rents were. Like do you not understand you're actively perpetuating that problem by voting down density and wanting more parking, greenspace, etc.

So as a counterpoint to this project is the redevelopment of the Dublin Village Center, where the developer is being denied for being too dense and is being forced to include greenspace and is being criticized about the quality and feel of that greenspace. Proof it all comes down to land value and desirability. I guess you could throw city incentives at this project to make up for the gap...

I should add I think Dublin has done a lot well, particularly with Bridge Park, and I was surprised to hear all the pushback on this development's density. Also, seems like a bit of legal CYA to have a completely subjective requirement on top of your form based code. So you can still deny whatever project you want because it isn't "Dublin" enough. Think a project doesn't have enough parking, even though it does per your code, then just deny it because of whatever subjective BS you want.

So I somehow listened to all 2 hours of this and it was wayyy more interesting than expected and a little contentious in the polite we're all being formal way. But essentially the plan meets code. They even had to pull in the Dublin lawyer (he got pulled in a few times actually) to say that that they couldn't vote no because of parking since it was compliant with the code requirements. One board member repeatedly brought up that there wasn't enough parking for every apartment to have 2 cars. They also brought up the density and that it was too dense, but it also meets the code limits of 4.5 stories. They debated the greenspace requirements and the use of the AEP easement to meet the greenspace requirement. To be clear the development meets the greenspace requirement, but "what if AEP in 10 years decides to fill their easement with giant transformers, then it wouldn't meet the requirements". Personally, I guess there's some validity to this but seems kinda silly, I would imagine that nearly all AEPs easements just are for lines and I don't think a power pole takes away from something being greenspace. But anyway, I think it ultimately came down to the commission wanting to see a full master plan and how this site fits into the larger redevelopment plan. Which seems fair, but the developer pushed back saying he was being penalized for owning more land and that this development met code. I guess it met all objective code criteria, one of the requirements is to be "distinctly Dublin" whatever that means. Development team seem pissed and very frustrated.

This is all a little moot. We know this isn't Sim City and it's not our money being spent. Density is typically driven by land value. Policies help, but at the end of the day it's return on investment. This is a map of Columbus property value. There's your answer. This could be the last developable piece of land in the county, but if it's not valuable land then you aren't going to be able to justify spending the money to build super densely.

I'm lost on this one? Tech giants on the west coast with minimal local presence are driving up skilled construction labor costs? If we're talking general labor, they've collectively laid off 50,000 people this year? They a'e building data centers locally, but those are just big warehouses that basically come pre-fab and I wouldn't think would overlap with the labor force doing historic restoration of masonry buildings?

Meh, I'm much more concerned with the 4 sides I can see as a citizen and less with one I can only see on Google maps. But there should probably be some city incentives to add solar panels on top of all parking lots, but particularly garages. Makes more sense than putting them on agricultural land.

I hate to be too skeptical, but what do we think the odds are that when that is built it actually has a clock at the top and not just another gray panel? I think it looks great, I just feel like there's very little chance that makes onto the final building. I'd love to be wrong.

I meant there's no offices in the big triangle tower. There's a 2 or 3 story building below that houses all the offices, but it's just big billboard from the red line up

I wouldn't get too excited about anything rapid 5 related. It kind of seems like a make work organization. Even their website frames it as a vision and "If RAPID 5 were to be implemented..." not exactly concrete language or executing a plan. All they've done is start a land bank. Which is better than nothing, but is not building bridges and towers.

Well it's still mostly a giant billboard built on top of a building. There's not offices or anything in the triangle tower. But if you're a media company that specializes in giant billboards and signs then it's a pretty smart move.

Something tells me "paved event space" is code for parking lot. But this probably won't ever happen so I guess I'm not worried about it.

Great spot for data centers too!

If I could only pick 1, it'd be Kroger Bakery. From there it's probably the Estrella and then the Peninsula 2.

Yea, this is awful and does nothing to screen the garage. I'd rather have the parking lot, it at least leaves some hope

I fail to see how this 3 story apartment building is worse than a 2 story funeral home? Apparently death is more palatable than renters?

Yeah, interesting they're starting to block things off without final approval.

Well hopefully they don't need Big Carl because he's going to be in Somerset until 2025 being used to build Britain’s first new nuclear power plant in 30 years... They used (are using?) a Buckner HeavyLift Cranes’ Liebherr Model LR 13000 for the fabs in Arizona. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/big-crane-build-huge-fabs.html#gs.5gofx7

I know this is good, but I find it hard to get excited at all about data centers. They just take up a lot of land and a lot resources (electricity) and employ like 10 people. The billions of dollars they spend on these things is largely on the equipment inside. I would think the building itself is no different than a warehouse, or a refrigerated warehouse. They could put these things anywhere. Maybe we save a few milliseconds on latency or something. They're fine, but if we're giving tax subsidies to these things we shouldn't be IMHO.

Unfortunately, I think Easton needs to treat this stuff really seriously or you'll see momentum shift away (ironically probably to the east). They were quick to call this an isolated incident, but this is definitely the kind of thing that makes people think twice about heading somewhere. What was it in January they had that huge brawl. How many isolated incidents before the general view of a place changes? People don't go to Easton because they have to.

I'm an idiot...

Yeah, but I don't know what you'd have ever seen develop here. It's just such a wierd parcel, very narrow and Columbus Center has those windows on the north side.

Yeah, I don't understand moving the airport. What benefit could there be and who would fund the billions of dollars it would take? If a terminal is $2B, what does an airport cost from scratch? Denver was the last new airport in 1995. It cost $9.6B in today's money and is like 30 miles from the actual city, it's like moving CMH to Marysville. I don't understand who's spending time or money on this? The lizard people?!

I interpreted this more as a fear it would be torn down for a larger apartment complex or something along those lines.