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Really glad they built a squat 8 story building just a few years ago...*facepalm*

^ I think Toronto's immigration hub status is more of a result of national policy than anything the city actually did.

why?

I don't see any surface parking in the plans. There is a 3 level garage, and there is the current surface parking lot further down Woodburn, which I believe is supposed to be a future phase of development.

I saw a whole bunch of new renderings for this project a few weeks ago, but I can't remember where. Try poking around the planning packets posted online...guessing that's where I saw them.

It's wayyy undersized for a prominent location in the CBD. Definitely not even approaching the highest and best use of the land. I think it should be demolished, and the site should be included in with the parking lot slated for the convention center hotel. That would give some more frontage to the hotel, and could potentially screen the ugly garage from public view on 5th.

Are you or your nephews fans of tennis, by chance? If so, you should come down to KI during the W&S Open. Do the tournament one day and KI the next. They're literally across 71 from each other, and they'd provide a nice contrast for you. Plus, I know your bougie self would enjoy the tennis tournament vibe...or at least the Veuve Clicquot tent! lol

^ How is that great? They're just moving jobs from Forest Park to Sharonville, while collecting some tax incentives along the way.

I get it. I've repeatedly said it's absurd to give subsidies and assistance to billionaires who will undoubtedly make lots more money off this development. It's totally fair to talk about the Lindner's wealth in the discussion over public subsidy for this project. I just don't think it's productive to have ill-informed conversations about how much money they've gained or lost through various business deals. None of us have any clue about the amount that Carl Lindner III personally paid toward the expansion fee or the stadium construction. No clue at all. We also have no clue how much money was gained or lost by selling the Reds to Castellini. It's just conjecture based on very little information.

The Lindner's finances is 100% not my business, but you have to know Carl didn't pay the $150 million franchise fee and $250 million for the stadium by himself. He/the Lindner family is just one (albeit major) part of the FCC ownership group. There are all sorts of assumptions going on in this post, and without being privy to their bank statements, it's probably best to not speculate on things that are, again, none of our business.

nah, sorry, but that's BS. She was racist, homophobic, anti-Semetic...an utter embarrassment. She repeatedly used the N word, said fu**ing Hitler just 'went too far', talked about sneaky, untrustworthy Jews...do we need to go on? Why are we defending an old curmudgeon who was, by nearly all accounts, an awful person? Aha! That explains the infamous Hitler quote...

Easy now. I love Yellow Spring, but it's a sleepy small town with a decent little business district. I wouldn't call it urban, let alone one of the most urban places in the state! As far as this larger density conversation goes, I actually think @E Rocc is correct in that different countries and portions of this country have differing tolerances for density. The East Coast is generally more tolerant of traditional forms of density, i.e. multi-family buildings, row-houses, etc. The West Coast generally tends to be less tolerant of density than East Coasters, but they don't seem to mind the relative density of their single family homes, even in suburban and exurban areas. People in a Southern (excluding Miami) or Midwestern suburb would never tolerate their suburban residential neighborhoods having homes as close together as they are in Orange County or Vegas, for example. When you look internationally, even the majority of Manhattanites would scoff at the notion of living in Hong Kong style density. The development patterns people are used to absolutely affect their appetite for density. That said, I don't think these attitudes are set in stone, and I do think that the conversation needs to be much more nuanced than just 'people don't like density'. People DO like environments where they can comfortably walk. They like having commercial establishments to walk to. They enjoy neighborhoods that facilitate interaction with their neighbors. As urbanists, many of us know that density is, in part, the way to achieve these things, but there is a disconnect between the two concepts for many people. I think most Americans do desire a bit more space than people in other countries, and in some places, achieving meaningful density is going to be a challenge. The good thing is, many of our cities in the Midwest already have the bones and structures to facilitate dense environments, we just need people to reoccupy them. We aren't starting from scratch when it comes to designing dense neighborhoods, unlike places like Austin, Nashville, Charlotte, etc.

I'm curious to know what business interests and holdings Lindner and the Farmers have outside of the core businesses in Cincinnati. Not necessarily doubting you, but honestly curious. IMO, the Lindners and Farmers and Co. are pretty much tied to Cincinnati, because their name carries weight there, and they are basically treated like royalty. That's the reason Lindner is so pissed and 'hurt' by the small road bumps he's experiencing with this MLS stadium. He's a Lindner, and therefore he should be given carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants. If the Lindners moved to New York or LA they would be small potatoes, and their name wouldn't get them much of anything. I went to school with multiple Lindner and Farmer kids, and I don't think these people are inherently bad or anything. They do invest in the community, and they have created many jobs in the region. I believe they want what is best for the region, and they want to see it succeed. But they need Cincinnati just as bad as Cincinnati needs them. P&G could basically pick and move to any number of cities in the world, and not really be affected. Not the case for the Lindner owned companies.

That is a lovely area. I'm up in Los Feliz! Hello, fellow Angeleno Urban Ohioan!

You think LA feels less dense than Cleveland!? LA’s density numbers would be substantially higher if it didn’t have a mountain range running through the middle of it. Nowhere outside of NYC, Chicago, SF (mayyybe Philly) have density like LA does in neighborhoods like Koreatown. Perhaps you haven’t spent much time in LA.

Lindner on FC Cincinnati stadium issues: ‘It’s extremely hurtful, disappointing Some pretty nauseating quotes from Lindner in this article, but I think this one takes the cake “I worry about Cincinnati getting the reputation New York City did for scooting out Amazon,” Lindner said. “I worry about our city from that perspective. If families like ours and the Farmers can’t get things done, what will people from outside the city who want to move their business here think? It’s not the kind of message you want to send.” If even I, billionaire Lindner, have to play by the normal rules of governance, what message does that send? Give me a fu**ing break. You are 'getting things done', you just aren't being allowed to totally skirt the rules like you want to. The Lindner and Farmer families will still make plenty of money off this team and West End real estate development. The stadium will get built and the team is already in the MLS. Nothing better than billionaires playing the victim card while trying to evict a poor 99 year old from a neighborhood that's already been shredded to bits by elites for generations. Ew, it's just gross. BTW, Carl, Amazon is now shopping for new office space in Midtown, so I guess New York's business reputation is still just fine.

I think it's great that the city and Port are sticking to their requirement for prevailing wage labor in exchange for public subsidy. It'd be one thing if this was an affordable housing development or something that really brought necessary services to the city, and even then I would think prevailing wage labor should be used. But the article posted a few weeks back claimed that this development was going to be extremely high end and intended for the wealthy. Some gems from that article: Office Amenities: "Indoor and outdoor pools, a lounge, a gym that rivals the Ritz." Stark listed them off. "No, seriously. These are resort amenities, and we're bringing them to our office users." Prospective Residents: These would be state-of-the-art residences, he said, the sort of places that celebrity athletes and executives from global brands would consider. "This is Tier 1," he said. "We really see this as being the Who's Who of Cleveland." Residential Amenities: "You can have groceries delivered. You can have your dog walked. It'll be like New York City." Sooo Stark is taking millions in public money, got a pretty good deal with the school district, and is planning an ultra-luxe development, but can't pay the construction workers building the project a decent wage? Shameful. Edit: this is the article I'm referencing/quoting: https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/cleveland-is-prepared-to-hand-over-a-12-million-loan-to-the-nucleus-project/Content?oid=30501801&utm_source=feature&utm_medium=home&utm_campaign=hpfeatures&utm_content=HomeTopFeature

I get the sentiment, but over 1,800 people died in Katrina. The resulting property damage and subsequent disinvestment might very well prove to be an epic catastrophe, but I think people forgot how utterly terrible and unprecedented Katrina was. It seems like tornadoes often hit poor and rural towns, so there should be some models out there for how these towns in Ohio can recover. Joplin, MO and any number of small towns that have been devastated in Oklahoma aren't exactly economically booming...This event might cause some reshuffling within metro Dayton, but I doubt it will have THAT big of an effect. Hopefully insurance and state/federal assistance will help take care of the bulk of repairs, but we all know how that can go. Regardless, hoping for the best for Dayton and its surrounding communities affected by this disaster.

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I woke up and only learned about the tornadoes from a post on Instagram. Looks like some neighborhoods/towns were really devastated. In one of the pics DeWine shared (the one of some exurban neighborhood with a pond) it looks like some houses were completely destroyed, while neighboring homes look basically untouched. Between this and the KKK rally, Dayton had a rough day yesterday.

Great photos! What was your favorite part of LA?

Nicely done! Great photos, thanks for sharing.

When I was in Amsterdam a few years back, I stayed in a hostel and met people from all over the world- France, Germany, Australia, Brazil, India... The only person I met who I had trouble communicating with was a dude from Montreal who spoke almost no English at all. How can someone be a resident of a major cosmopolitan city in an English dominant country and not speak even basic English? I have been to Montreal a few times and never had difficult communicating or getting around, so this encounter really surprised me.

I’m skeptical that much of anything will be developed here besides the parking garage and music venue.

Which demonstrates why city population figures are all but meaningless...