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Now I'm reading there will be no liquor store... So thus far it seems like there will be no pharmacy, no little clinic, no liquor store, probably no fifth third branch (like many of the suburban krogers feature). Add the fact that they close early, compared to most kroger stores, I can't help but feel that they built a kroger not for an urban community of residents (like they would at a montgomery kroger, or a loveland kroger, or an oakley kroger) but rather will treat this as, "Well no one really lives downtown, but hey if you want to buy some produce, and some toilet paper in a less sketchy kroger than hear ya' go!" I'm not trying to be too picky, and this will be an obvious vast improvement of the otr kroger, but I just can't shake the sense that kroger does not really have any faith that downtown actually has enough middle income-to upper income, full time residents to support a fully functioning kroger store...and thus we are ending up with a very limited kroger in the making.

Not a big deal necessarily. I just get this growing impression that this Kroger is meant to be a more modern up-to-date OTR Kroger, that will fulfill the needs of business workers/weekend tourists from the suburbs rather than be a main focal destination for families and be a one stop shopping experience like the Kroger are in the suburbs. The lack of a little clinic, a pharmacy aren't a big deal, but they do add a level of convenience that the majority of krogers do provide. I just hope this isn't a half assed experience overall.

Doesn't Kroger have little clinic? Will these not be features in the new Kroger store?

Any word if this new Kroger will contain a Pharmacy? I would hope so, because I really want the Cross Roads Health Center that currently acts as the neighborhood pharmacy to be redeveloped for future Mixed Use Development in OTR.

Did townships start appearing during white flight? I'm curious how they even came to be?

I'm predicting a crap ton of uscans. Even at suburban Kroger's you have insanely high turn over and have to consistently rely on flakey high school students. It's been a real struggle for them because of there low union wages compared to say target that employees a cashier at 13 an hour.

I'm thinking the future development will probably be more in focus once they figure out a plan with the Cincinnati Ballet site. I'm also guessing because of the stadium delays they are sprinting towards the 2021 opening full speed ahead and are too focused on getting the stadium site itself completed and opened first.

The stadium renderings look sexy and modern, especially at night.

Starting the hashtag now, #CourtStCoffeeDistrict

Cincinnati.com: Downtown Kroger to open Sept. 25; hours of operation unveiled https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2019/09/09/downtown-kroger-open-sept-25-hours-operation-unveiled/2260677001/ 6am to 10pm - 7 days a week. Starbucks will have a carry out window along Court St for customers. Kinda sucks that they close at 10 but I'm guessing this has to do with a lack of strong downtown urban population to keep them open longer+ shoplifting concerns from the poor residents who live downtown. .

The last remaining land is probably the parking lots where d*cks/old toys r us is...aside from some of the remaining Kenwood mall lots...I just get the sense there has to be a massive revision for certain stretches of Kenwood in order to continue to support development. They are truly on the cusp of having no room left unless they demolish certain stretches of the suburban development in exchange for taller urban development with parking structures.

Cincinnati.com: Chick-fil-A wants to open restaurant in Kenwood https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/09/08/chick-fil-a-kenwood-second-restaurant/2257153001/ Is it just me is Kenwood hitting critical mass with there ability to support suburban developement? Parking is already a nightmare during the holiday months so let's add a Chick-Fil-A on the Kenwood parking lot to even create a even larger traffic nightmare. Kenwood is great with so much business activity, but I truly think they are losing to support developement because of lack of suburban land. That's why I think we will soon see Kenwood slowly transition into cincinnati next urban neighborhood.

Cities change. Cities evolve. We are just a ripple in time. In 200 years that FCC stadium will probably be replaced with something else. That's only thing consistent about life, it's change. Likewise the sun will eventually supernova and become a black dwarf and our entire Galaxy will go dim. Destroying every man made archeticturial element on this Earth. Burnt to dust. Moral of the story; Don't get too attatched for anything in life for it will surely change.

Since there is no thread (that I could find at least) dedicated to City Club 309 Vine Apartments...I noticed on the website, that it says that the Grocery Store, Wine bar/Coffee bar are leased and the 3rd floor, "Entertainment Space (whatever that means)" is in negotiations. https://www.cityclubapartments.com/usa/cincinnati-oh/downtown/city-club-apartments-cbd/commercial/ That said, I wonder what are the chances of City Club landing a grocery chain like Traders Joe? I know with the new Downtown Kroger it might make landing a second grocery store to the urban core difficult...but I do think a smaller footprint Organic Grocery store like a Traders Joe or an Aldi could still work in conjunction with the new downtown kroger.

https://www.citybeat.com/news/blog/21085639/hamilton-county-commissioners-unanimously-approve-new-permanent-skystar-wheel-at-the-banks New Renderings of the Larger Skystar with new permenant concession stands and corn hole lawn. Look, it's cheeky but it's a nice addition to this city overall. I'm happy this happened

Nothing has been announced by Sherwin. Alot of this is stemmed from KJP sources, but the problem with early information is that it can turn from, "Groundbreaking in August, to the project is dead and the current parking lot site will be expanded with more demolition (as is the case with the Stark project) and no new tower." It's early information that is essentially the equivalent to the size of an embryo.

309 Vine, PNC Tower, and 4th and Race alone will bring 820 new downtown residents within a block of one and another. Add any potential mixed use residential development at the convention parking lot site, and will probably reach over a 1,000-,1,100 residents in such a small radius. This movement is beyond amazing!

City Club is officially the new owner of Fourth and Vine tower. https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/09/05/exclusive-iconic-downtown-cincinnati-office-tower.html?iana=hpmvp_cinci_news_headline Development will bring: 1. Mixed-use space with ground floor retail, second floor commercial space 2. 262 new residential apartments 3. Focus on international design, boutique hotel style amenities, time saving services, fiber technologies and wellness. Great, great news! Hopefully this translates to a CBD that is much more active after the afternoon workers head home to the burbs.

Curious if Sherwin Williams and PPG would ever merge...I know PPG is HQ in Pittsburgh

Seriously don't understand why they don't move this public garden to a portion of Washington Park if it's such a big deal. As an aside, I've noticed this trend of alot more faux historic infill being proposed for otr lately. Before it was this clash of modern with some historic design elements but lately it's been heavily faux inspired... I'm almost wondering if buyers are more interested in historic properties/faux historic properties than modrtn structures in otr...and maybe this is what is pushing the change?

I think it's supply versus demand ultimately. We still have so many more historic buildings that need to be rehabbed, so many vacant office buildings that could be potentially converted to residential, not to mention many empty lots that are in the CBD/west end and otr that can be redeveloped. Ultimately we will get to a point where those empty lots by the ramps will have to be developed because of pure lack of urban land and the economic push to continue developement and new residential.

https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/september-9-2019-staff-report-and-attachments-1-5/ https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/september-9-2019-staff-report-and-attachments-6-8/ New infill for 1407 Race St presented by 3cdc, along with a few OTR rehabs, and approvals for the Taft Ale Housing outdoor dining patio + Sugar and Spice outdoor dining area.

Aren't more and more large corporations turning against the grain of a sole corporate skyscraper? For instance I look at Amazon HQ, Apple HQ, Walmart's new 350 Acre HQ..They are all designed to look like college campuses, with a community meeting space, a corporate lawn to do goat yoga, basketball courts, gym facility, etc. Millennial's have a different definition of the word, "corporate" nowadays. They expect a dress code that doesn't prohibit their idea of expression, they expect a built in espresso bar/Starbucks, a modern cafeteria with vegan options, a free onsite gym, a recreational lawn where you can do goat yoga, play basketball, ping pong, etc. You have to really sell your company nowadays to millennial's, and many don't want to work in a boxed skyscraper, they want, "space" and a laundry list of free corporate amenities, hence the reason for many of these corporate campuses.

I mean people live next to elevated subway train tracks in downtown chicago and those things are probably more annoying than hearing cars swoosh by. I don't think it would be neccessary unappealing to live next to a highway ramp if there was some beautification involved...(appropriate lighting, scattered mural art/art sculptures, paved side walks, maybe some attractions like a hidden hong kong style food hall alley full of neon lights.

Yeah, I never really realized how many empty lots that side of downtown has. From Sawyer point to the casino there is just so much opportunity with empty lots and transform them to new mixed use development. That side of downtown is so desolate, but with investment could be al great extension of our downtown with a few modestly sized towers and skyscrapers.