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I was their maybe 3 hours ago. Tons of people shopping. Barely any vacant store fronts in the mall, like say tri-county, tons of resturaunts too like P.F Chang's, other chain type places. It was a legit good mall! It seriously reminded me of an urban mall you would find in a bigger city like say Toronto or Chicago so I'm genuinely curious how they pulled off an urban mall that's very successful in a city that is equal in density/population to Cincy. Like I said above, it doesn't make sense. I get it if Indy was booming, with new residential towers left and right (I barely saw much construction in Indy but maybe I missed something), but it's not. The whole city sort of reminds me of Dayton but on serious, serious steroids (in that in Cincy CBD you feel like your in a slice of a bigger city with the dense towers left and right. Indy Downtown feels a little flatter, with less height in it's CBD (in my opinion at least). 3cdc needs to stop by Indy and examine what Indy has done with the monument circle area and the downtown mall and see what strategies they can implement in our CBD. I'm honestly jealous and taken aback right now. Seriously didn't expect that type of retail and vibrancy. I'm so used to vacant urban mall in Midwest cities so I'm not sure how they were able to pull this off for a city their size.

So I'm in Indianapolis right now for the first time. What I noticed was how much resturaunts and retail there were by monument circle. I saw a tj Maxx and the nearby monument circle mall is very nice and reminds of an urban Kenwood mall of sorts. Tons of shops and name brand stores inside. This area reminds me how fountain square SHOULD be. Tons of people, tons of resturaunts and a nice amount of tourist retail destinations. I'm just curious how Indy made this urban mall so populated and successful? Walking around downtown, it doesn't feel like a dense populated city like say Chicago where they have a lot of residents living in downtown lofts and apartments...It feels like a smallish midsized city no different than cincinnati...so I'm not sure how Indy made this urban mall/area around monument circle so successful while our city can't get any name brand retail (like an h & m) anywhere near the urban core whatsoever. What is Indy recipe for success? Because I would KILL for Cincy to have such a vibrant fountain square/urban mall destination where I can actually buy clothes and do some weekend day shopping. I literally spent hours just hanging out at the mall with my girlfriend and looking at the different retail shops. Again, cities need a retail destination. It's needs a retail corridor. You can't solely rely on eat and drink to be the only attraction your city relies on.

Say what you want about Scott Ford, but he has a vision for light rail in the urban core. He's very vocal about this issue on his Twitter. He also plans to run for mayor and has a somewhat large following on social media and most importantly, is rich. He lives in a fancy loft at Findley market and doesn't work. He has the type of money to burn on a mayoral 2020 campaign. Call me crazy, but he's super passionate about this city, has city hall connections, and is very vocal about progressive issues like light rail. From what he's discussed on Twitter he's planning to announce a campaign to run, and I honestly think he might be a sleeper candidate.

No one caring about pacers in Ohio is accurate. No one caring about nba in Ohio is not. Plenty of cincy people wear Cavs, golden state, Laker LeBron jerseys, etc.

When I was in Europe, one of my favorite resturaunts to go to was this outside resturaunt garden. Huge pine trees, wonderful decor with string lights and fire pits, live outdoor bandstand music on weekends. It was always packed in the summer nights. Ive always wondered if a concept like this could work in Cincy. Sometimes I think how cool it would be if Washington Park had an outdoor resturaunt on the weekends.

131 E McMicken Ave proposal is up on the latest HCB packet. Shows a rendering of new 1 story infill next to Roadtrippers HQ (can't tell if it will cover up the cheers to beer murual painted on the wall). The concept looks very cool. The infill is a large glass green house, and the adjacent grass lot appears to be a beer garden filled with trees and a large canopy. Very neat concept. Hopefully this section of McMicken will be gradually clean up by the time this venture opens. If you look on shot spotter most of the north liberty crimes have begun to congregate on this street since the closure of findlay playground.

Sure but your listing major metro areas. There is a reason why Michigan doesn't support the Indians/Cavs. They have the Pistons/Tigers in Detroit. For a mid sizes city we are nested between various states that either don't have any major league sport teams, or don't have any nearby any sport teams (middle town/Dayton for instance). Hence the reason why our sport teams have been able to garner the attention of many other states besides just greater Ohio.

It's an empty ballpark because the reds havent been good since 2012 and the ownership has been flakey at best. Also, mlb attendance has been suffering league wide. Hence the reason why first place Minnesota twins had to do a 5$ dollar ticket promotion just earlier this week. Greater cincinnati population is what 2.1 million? FCC, Bengals, Reds fans don't just live in the urban core/outer ring suburbs of west chester and Mason...They live in Hamilton, Middletown, Dayton, Covington KY, Florence KY, parts of Indiana. Our city is located in a unique position where our sport teams can have the power to reach not just greater Ohio but also KY and parts of Indiana.

The league is also barely 20 year old. Comparing apples to oranges.

I feel like this was the mentality when fcc and MLS talks came about. Why would MLS pick cincinnati when they have the Columbus crew? Why would they pick cincinnati against the likes of Sacramento, Detroit, the other competing bids... The fact that we have a 3rd MLS team caused alot of disbelief. Lowely, small town minded cincinnati has 3 Major League Sport teams?! Our city is moving in an upward trajectory. No one on urban Ohio forum can deny that this city is the same city it was even 10 years ago. I'm not saying a NBA/NHL team is something that will happen tomorrow. Obviously it takes multiple factors like a wealthy ownership group, and a proper updated area that can satisfy the needs of nba/nhl. I'm simply stating that a sports league like the nba has a tendency to relocate teams quite often. Dan Gilbert, owner of the Cavs has nixed the proposed plans to rennovate their arena, but still vows to keep the team in Cleveland for the foreseeable future. Regardless, attendance without LeBron (plus being the 2nd worst team in the league) has caused attendance to decline this season. How long will this last, who knows? Same goes for a team like the Memphis Grizzilies. This team uses to be based out of Vancouver and moved to Memphis in the early 2000's. Their attendance has been declining for 4 straight years and has reached it's lowest point this season since 2010 season. I'm not saying we are ready today. But our city is growing in a very positive direction. We just recently received a 3rd Major League team, which many doubt would be possible for cincy to obtain. Sport leagues like the NHL, and more so the NBA relocate teams quite frequently, and if we were in a position where we had all of our ducks lined in a row for a possible relocation team then I don't think it's quite absurd for cincinnati to one day have 4 Major League Teams.

If we want to be blue sky, we could also theoretically double down on the sports generating pedestrian traffic and venture on how a NBA/NHL team (who play in the winter) could impact the banks with an updated US Bank Arena. I know a handful of teams in both the NHL/NBA that have struggling attendance/ownership and would eye a relocation move.

Your making it sound as if increased awareness of our city core neighborhoods is a bad thing...

This. You know how many people thought west end was the west side? If you Bob from Mason where the west end was he would have no clue. This stadium has changed the identity and perception of the west end increasingly.

There will be 17 MLS Home Games in the West End. Each Match goes 90 minutes. That means at the worst you would have to suffer 34 hours of any match noise in an entire year.

Why is that though? Streets like Baymiller is probably what, 5-10 min max walk to the FCC stadium? After that, it's what also 5-10 min walk to Findley market/Rhinegeist Brewery, 10 min walk maybe 15 min to Music Hall/Washington Park? These old West end streets are in the epicenter of all the redevelopment around it. You could literally walk to all of the key attractions in cincy in less than 15 minutes. It doesn't make sense why property developers aren't snatching these properties up like crazy!

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2019/05/13/fc-cincinnati-stadium-west-end-gentrification-home-prices/3572235002/ As expected, real estate prices are beginning to sharply increase in portions of West End and Old West End. Old West End still has some really great archeticture remaining, so if anything comes out of this fcc gentrification procress I truly hope that we can reconnect old West end with otr/Brighton and end this disconnect where each neighborhood feels like islands due to reinvestment versus lack thereof.

https://www.gofundme.com/schwartz039s-point-jazz-club If anyone wants to donate please do. SHWARTZ Jazz Club seems to be struggling. I'm glad they raised the 1k they were asking for but it sounds like they need a little more continued support. I feel bad for them honestly. They do alot of positive work but they are located in a part of otr that very few people feel comfortable in at night. Hope they stay open until that part of otr gets gentrified.

I apologise. Your right that my statement was uncalled for. I wish the best for Cleveland and all of the 3 C's. Time and Time again I encounter folks from Cleveland who constantly boast about Cleveland superiority and consistently shame cincinnati in the process. Obviously there is some ingrained bias. When I visited Cleveland this past summer the only thing it reminded me of was Cincinnati circa 2003..I guess the disconnect was glaring during my trip.

Closed retail everywhere when I walked around Cleveland Downtown. For lease signs everywhere...as twilight came the streets became like a ghost town. I asked the locals on reddit where to go to party with my group of friends for the weekend..West 6th st was fine, albeit a small zone but it was enjoyable for a couple of hours.East 4th st was cool as well I guess. I was also recommend the Warehouse District which was disappointing, not many options, and the area looked like if you took a slice of otr and demolished 75 percent of the buildings for parking lots. Huge parking lot canyon, and destroys the look of the neighborhood. We did spend some time in Ohio city at well, which was fine. I will say the west side market while large, is disappointing. Alot of vendors were closed. Alot of empty available space in the market and many of the occupied vendors were basically selling the same produce/meat. Real lack of variety. Our favorite area in Cleveland was actually Lakewood, from what I understand is a Cleveland suburb. Lakewood was definitely a good time, but sucked that it wasn't walkable in the least bit

Hamilton county leaders as well as CSO officials have said the promo West will not deter the banks venue on Twitter today. Denise Driehaus also commented over Twitter stating that the banks venue is still on and will just add healthy competition for the 2 venues.

Twitter news anchors reported that the site plan has changed. Obviously promo West Concert Venue is anchor but previous tower developments have been scaled back according to news bit tweets I've read.

I've seen all of this activity at the banks on weekdays before. Again, not sure what your talking about...it's almost as if your saying the banks is a total ghost town on weekdays with not a soul in sight. That's absolutely not true. I see kids, I see families at smale, I see people walking their dogs, I see people on red bikes and lime scotters, I see people eating at taste of beglium, etc...Your making the banks sound way worse off than reality.

Im sorry but I consider someone who lives in northern KY more of a Cincinnatian than someone who lives in west Chester or Mason. Kentucky as a whole recognizes the fact that northern KY is a compete outcast to the rest of the Kentucky region.

Congrats promowest is heading to nky (which is cincinnati with the name KY in front of it). Also congrats, ovation is replacing the once promised dense towers full of residential and retail options with a music venue and low rise buildings. With Newport on the Levee suffering this is a bigger blow for that region in the long run.