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Makes me wonder if this pertains to the Grammer owned lots facing Walnut

Ah OTRCH. God bless those saints. Adding no value in the neighborhood whatsoever once again.

When does Venice on Vine lease expires? God bless them for their mission... But their pizza is average and their storefront is to large for a key corner of otr. I know they came at a time when otr was less desirable, but I really hope we see something more worthy on that corner.

I could argue that the success of Broadway street has trickled down to the rest of Nashville and created a ripple effect of development. New hotels, new residential skyscrapers, new mixed use development...I honestly believe it's due to the unbelievable success of Broadway street becoming a magnet for local and international tourists 24/7 of the calendar year.

Shadyside also has a rolex store, clothing retail like JCrew. I know Kenwood is the main focal point of retail in Cincinnati right now, but at some point we have to shift and develop a retail corridor downtown. Resturaunts, Bars, Clubs those are all great afternoon/night life destinations...but to make a 24/7 district I strongly believe you need a retail district that will target familes/teenagers/kids, etc Shopping is a great day time activity, especially for tourists and right now (outside of independent run small botique shops in otr) we have nothing to offer as a city for retail. I think that is something that really hurts us to some extent..it makes far too many people flock to the suburbs instead for their shopping needs and we need to collectively figure out how to reverse that. Cincinnati needs to feel luxery. It needs to feel rich. That's how you get attention. That's how you get tourists. Thats how you get international investors stop and go, "hmmm, maybe Cincinnati is actually a good target for my development team and a new 30 story luxery apartment high rise). I know, it goes beyond retail to make a city successful...it takes alot of factors. But right now, we need to focus on how to make cincy a destination city that goes beyond food and alcohol.

I was under the impression that the kroger infill development would also include some type of structured parking like the Mercer project.

It's been sustainable for new Orleans and Nashville for quite some time now.

Also, maybe they want to phase this out? Meiners, and Behlen building this summer/Fall? Then the rest of the historic buildings adjacent to the Behlen for phase 2 and the Weilert building and it's adjacent historic building for the last phase before working on the Kroger infill site? That's the only logic I can think of.

No there were renderings shown (I believe some members of Cincy Business courrier were presented some renderings by 3cdc last year and they tweeted about this instance) so they definitely have a plan. Maybe it's a financing issue? 4th and Race, Fountain Square tower, new Convention HQ hotel...makes me think maybe 3cdc is running tight on money due to their recent project load?

3cdc is filing an application to the HCB under the name 1400 Vine LLC, to demolish the Kroger building and construct a commercial parking lot. My question is...Does this mean there is a delay with the proposed infill project for the Kroger lot? It will be quite disappointing if we have to wait another handful of years to see movement on this lot by 3cdc...

If I remember correctly Steve Lepper of 3cdc mentioned in a news article that they would more than welcome an Apple Store in the urban core but stated that the urban core still lacks proper population density to lure any big retail fish like an Apple store... Which makes sense tbh.

If otr had the population density to support the amount of bars on weekdays (especially on main St) as much it does already on weekends then it would be. The French quarters, Broadway St...what do they have in similar? People go their to drink, party, unwind. French quarter might have more substance due to the history, size and architecture, but it is still largely where people go first and foremost to get drunk and party.

I feel like this city council has encountered the most projects in the shortest time versus all the proceeding council's in the past decade. Big testament to the strong economic development growth of our city, but I can definitely see how city council can start becoming a tad overwhelmed with their council dockets nowadays.

Overheard on 700wlw this morning discussing 3cdc and fountain square development. Apperantly the book store owner is angry right now. Lost 25% of sales, escelators don't work so hard to reach his store, AC/Heat have been cut off. He's contemplating suing the city/3cdc (?) if the conditions don't change. Apperantly city council are having an economic and development meeting today regarding fountain square and discussions about whether apartments can be constructed above.

In the biz courier article, 3cdc acknowledged that the lot size is so big that they may be able to fit another development on that parcel as well. It would be neat if they could squeeze both a hotel, and a 2nd tower that is mixed use development with residential and retail next to the new convention hotel.

What potential height are we looking at? Could this possibly alter the skyline.

Broadway street is open container. But again, it's not this massive historic district or anything of that nature. It's a street that stretches a fee blocks long, lined up with the same type of honkey tonk live country music bar, copy/pasted throughout. I just don't get why literally everyone goes there for their bachelor/bachelorette parties. Also, this is Nashville's main night life spot. It's not like cincinnati where you have OTR, Covington, The Banks, Northside, etc where you can have a vast rotating entertainment neighborhood options. It's literally a street, with the same bars, and that's it. And it is being crowned as the jewel of Nashville and the premier party destination in America and the #1 reason for Nashville's popularity and growth as a city. If we can leverage OTR the same way Nashville leverages Broadway St then Cincinnati can also have bachelorettes crying about the NFL draft ruing their wonderful planned party weekend.

Nashville is still a tier 2 city as far as I'm concerned. The city relies too heavily on broadway street as it's main attraction. If your not into drinking or country music there is very little to do in Nashville. I don't even understand why there are giant city double decker bus tours of the city. Nashville is literally acting so pretencious as it's some massive top tier city like NYC, Hong Kong, London, like wtf lol... Whats worse is that Broadway Street is essentially a district that is compiled of a few blocks. I get that if it was like the French Quarters, or OTR where it is this giant historic district for you to explore and be immersed in, but it's not. It's literally like a small town college street on steroids that blasts country music daily till 3am. I'm just frusterated, because there are people who are from cincinnati and trash cincinnati and say how great nashville is, but when you ask them what's so great about nashville they mention broadway street...and only broadway street...and all I can do is shake my head. Like really? Are you that obsessed with country music and a block full of party bars?

All week I've been hearing about people from my work going down to Nashville to party on Broadway Street, and how Nashville is such a fantastic city. I've even seen that Nashville have begun offer Double Decker bus tours around Nashville, as if it's some grand city like NYC/Chicago/London. It's popularity has become nuts (and there's really not much to do in nashville if your not into drinking heavily and simultaneously listen to country music)... Then I think to myself, Nashville is essentially defined by Broadway Street. People are going down in droves to party on Broadway St...Yet I'm over here thinking to myself OTR has essentially more bars (probably double) than all of Broadway Street. Maybe it's not as compact (most of Broadway st bars are in the span of a few blocks), but I'm still wondering why the hell people are so obsessed with Broadway St and Nashville when OTR is essentially offering the same thing minus the 3am last call, and live country music. It makes me wonder if Broadway St, and it's night life can be a huge reason for Nashville tourism and growth...why can't we do the same for OTR and Cincinnati?

Cincinnati.com: Teak is reopening, bringing Thai to a new neighborhood https://www.cincinnati.com/story/entertainment/dining/2019/04/26/teak-thai-restaurant-reopening-over-rhine-near-washington-park/3552799002/ Officially official. Teak was one of the best resturaunts in Mt Adams during it's heyday and will be easily one of the top resturaunts in otr if it can mimic it's early success

It caters to a certain older upscale crowd, so yeah.

Hopefully they are relocating? It would be nice to have a Bar Louie somewhere downtown/OTR/the banks.

I have to imagine that lot would be redeveloped into another high rise. The Millennium is an outdated eye sore and would love a modern glass tower to take over that real estate.

Interesting to hear. Makes me wonder if that will be home to a new hotel site (because I originally thought that 3cdc and the port were targeting the large surface lot next to the center), or if this will be some time of mixed use development?

What ever happened to those 3cdc condos that were supposed to be built on pleasant (I think that block next to the mural of the guy in the top hat)