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I heard they will also have a resturaunt as well along with their office. I could be wrong but that's what I thought the plan was.

Lots of new eateries as well. Taste of Belgium opening their next location at the Paramount building along with the brewery will be a great 1-2 punch to bring, "outsiders" who are still wary of walnut hills past reputation to give the neighborhood a second chanc.

Mike Moroski was presented the 6 lane option today during the special CPS meeting as the ongoing comprimise choice.

Even then we don't know what mayor we will end up with let alone what new council members we will get either. I think the 6 lane option with buffering on street parking and 4 travel lanes sounds like a good alternative if there had to be one.

A 6 lane plan is being offered as the compromise...with (I'm assuming since Jeff pastor wanted available on street parking) on street parking at the curb of the outer lanes...making it essentially 4 lanes of traffic flow.

Any clue or speculation towards what brand the new convention center hotel might be?

Jay Hanselman is reporting today that an agreement has been reached between the county and city to begin work on the new music venue.

I agree with that statement. My argument is that for OTR to remain a, "hot real estate market" you need to provide a perception of safety. There are some homes reaching almost a million dollars on zillow, there are also quite a few homes hovering above 500-600k dollars in OTR that have been sitting on the market for maybe a year now, and constantly see price reductions without ever being sold. If I was from a different city, and wanted to potentially relocate to cincinnati and shop for which neighborhood I wanted to live in I would google the name of the neighborhood. Right now, if you google "Over the Rhine" you will get 10 articles at the very top of the page stating that OTR is a, designated, "High Violent Crime Area" by the FBI and Cincinnati Police Department. That would scare the hell out of me, and I would automatically search for the next neighborhood and skip OTR all together. This hurts the reputation of OTR plain and simple. This hurts the real estate market in OTR. This hurts development in OTR. And this ultimately trickles down to the restaurants, bars and shops in OTR over time.

I'm not arguing that. But you realize this article has spread all over social media as well. News like this hurts otr as a whole. From the resturaunts to tourism from out of towners. Sure, crime is isolated but articles like this one paints picture as if all of otr is dangerous and crime infested and to me it's concerning because I still feel while otr perception from the general public has drastically changed it is still at a fickle point where a few more news articles like this one can push a massive dent and reverse the course for the public at large.

Cincinnati.com: Shootings prompt police sweep of OTR and West End https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/04/08/rise-shootings-prompts-police-sweep-over-rhine-and-west-end/3403372002/ Interesting note in the article is that it says lack of territory has caused the shootings to become pushed to north of liberty and that the closing of the vine Street park late last year has caused the park at McMicken to essentially become the new hub for criminal and drug activity. I think someone here predicted just that and goes to prove that you cant have these massive undeveloped parks and green space in urban locations without it becoming a centralized hub for criminals to use it as a major hub and gathering spot to do crime. I say we chain fence that park as well and make sure that there is no available open parks/large green spaces in undeveloped parts of otr and only allow Ziegler and Washington Park to be the main community parks for now for both north and south of liberty.

Yeah the lighting is really bad, especially on race and walnut. Does not create a safe atmosphere at all.

Is the base capable of going above 22 stories?

I'm just trying to comprehend the mentality and state of thinking of these criminals. Forensic science, in addition to shot spotter and increased security cameras has made it MUCH more feasible to track these criminals down. The funny part is that alot of these criminals will have a beef with someone, shoot them on vine, and walk back to their apartment in OTR, and act as if nothing happened and then be shocked when they get arrested in 3 days time. I'm just genuinely curious how they can have this mentality of, "Oh I don't like this dude, let me murder him with my pistol, go home and call it a day!" This is mind boggling to me that these people feel like they can get away with shooting someone and not be caught in this day and age! You would think that the normal train of thought would be, "I don't like this guy, but that's okay! Screw him. I'll go about my day, and not go to prison for 25 years because I actually enjoy my life and enjoy my day to day freedom!" It's so backwards, and makes me want to understand more what goes behind the brain of a criminal who thinks that they are untouchable when it comes to getting caught?

I'm curious how the brewery heritage trail will do. Much of the trail is connected to many points in North of liberty...I can't imagine how many folks will feel comfortable walking around north of liberty without a guided group.

That's a good point. Another point is that alot of these criminals are repeat offenders and under disability for carrying a fire arm. Once they are released they aren't allowed to live near a school.... So how in the hell are these termites still living in north of liberty? It's illegal for them to live their!

Heard a rumour regarding the Macy building. Apperantly it's set to become a 45' story tower. Anyone hear anything similar to this?

Driving through strectches of McMicken at night and you see the poverty. You see the prositutes, the open air drug trading. Portions of North of Liberty truly resemble a 3rd world country and it's truly scary how people can live like that. Im sort of surprised that these land lords still choose to house low income residents when they can rehab their building and have a luxury unit and create a much bigger pay day for their pockets. Surely they aren't making that much off these low income residents are they?

https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/otr-west-end-designated-as-high-violent-crime-areas Yikes it's not even summer yet! What happened? I thought otr crime was going down not up? This doesn't make sense in correlation with all the development and new influx of restaurants, bars, increased rent, etc...

Any idea where they would potentially build one?

From what I understand Copa will function as a resturaunt and a bar/night club at night. Similar concept to Mixx Ultralounge when it was around on main St. I agree that tree house and otr live aren't necessarily the best neighborhors for a multitude of reasons but that being said Julian Rodgers has found a lot of success recently with his recent ventures and it's good to see that he's still investing in new ventures in the otr neighborhood. Also, tree house and otr live for better or for worse bring ALOT of night life traffic, especially during the warmer months and is definitely economically good for the few late night food vendors around like Lucy blue/Goodfellas/boom box buns, etc

I've also noticed prices have begun to sharply increase north of liberty as well.

Surprisingly I've never been to the convention center before until today. Here are my observations... 1. The convention center looks sooo dated. Literally feels like 1980s inside. Desperately need a remodel. Even the extior looks drab and boring. So many cities have more up-to-date convention centers. Cincy shouldn't be lagging this far behind in that area. 2. The Millennium Hotel is an ugly hotel building. Please demolish it. 3. The Hyatt that's connected to Saks... Again such drab 80s architecture. Just ughhhhhhh 4. In fact the immediate area around the convention center is so ugly. Parking garages galore..not even the good looking kind, just straight up garages that feel like they are crumbling on the inside. Then there are the immediate small story office parks leased by pure romance and such. Who in the hell thought this was a good idea? Looks like a building designed for west Chester and planted in the urban core! 4. Everything is so dead around the convention center. It doesn't make sense! You have so many events that are bringing tourists! Why isn't there retail, cafes, resturaunts, etc? There is so much pedestrian traffic coming in an out of the hotels that the city can't even attract a damn Starbucks surrounding the convention center? In the end, this whole stretch needs massive urban renewal and revisioning. There should be a ton of mixed use commercial/residential in place of those garages at the very least.

Interesting to hear about a brief bit of commentary about a Hard Rock Hotel and Hard Rock Cafe as potential future development by hard rock. I imagine they will probably look at those parking lots by the casino at some point.

Pie in the sky dream is that they purchase one of the nearby massive parking lots by the casino and somehow squeeze in a new arena that could potentially be home to a NBA/NHL team. Hell, I wouldn't even mind an e-sports arena.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/04/exclusive-nation-s-largest-african-american-owned.html?iana=hpmvp_cinci_news_headline Nations Largest African American owned archeticture firm opening first Cincinnati office in otr. Great news, adding to the number of archeticture firms in otr already and more high paid day time office works to spend money at local otr establishment!