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It might help if their is a push to email mayor cranley and persuade him to not veto the project.... [email protected] Its worth a shot.

Liberty road diet passed 5-2 today in council...Cranely has said he has not made a decision on whether he will veto the project or not.

PG Sittenfield confirmed today on Twitter that they need 1 more council member to vote yes, currently only 5. Vote will take place either tomorrow or thursday. If you haven’t emailed your city council memebers now is the time to do so. It’s do or die at this point for the road diet.

I can’t tell from the schematics that well...but it doesn’t seem like this involves that many historic tear downs? Also just FYI, this is design 1 of 4 being presented to the west community council.

Boom box Buns is a new carry out window on 1324 Main St, on the side st of the Takeaway on Main Deli, specializing in Chinese’s bao Buns. Currently they only operate Friday and Saturday, from 7 to when they sell out. https://instagram.com/boomboxbuns?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=1gl2rxco1a6ex

Why are you so scared of everything? You were constantly chicken little in the Cincinnati crime section, and now you are panicking on the Cleveland boards. Take a breath and use common sense when in a city. There aren’t crazy maurauders stalking the streets of Cleveland killing everyone. Right...just an elderly couple almost getting beaten to death while having a date night out....

Who is voting against this project? From what I’ve seen most council members seem to be in support I thought?

Can anyone give any insight as to why Cleveland crime is on such an uptick? The population compared to Columbus and Cincy is roughly the same. They are all similar sized cities for the most part. Left and right I constantly see new murders in the surrounding urban core of cleveland on my news feed and its kind of terrifying. Whats going on in cleveland that is spiking these hard murder rates? Is it a growing and worsening poverty issue? I'm just trying to wrap my head around why and how this is happening, especially when the other 2 Big C's have been quite flat (or even on a downward trend, especially for cincy) this year with their crime rates.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/05/city-sells-major-piece-of-downtown-property-across.html The city sold the Whex Garage for 1.75 Million to Carell OH LLC. If I remember correctly, PG Sittenfield plan was to use of the funds from selling this property and allocate it the liberty st diet funding gap..

It appears the HCB have a given a recommendation for the approval of 1118 Sycamore. 7 story infill project, will contain 155 apartment units, 2 level parking garage, and ground floor retail. Say what you want about the design, but this level of density and new retail will be great for main street.

Reztark seems to be connected with alot of other high profile projects that have been developed to completion, so maybe this has a chance? As far as the rendering is concerned I love it. Reminds me of something you would see in NYC, just gives a very luxurious mood. I also love the green space, and the pedestrian walkway...to me it seems it could maybe connect with fountain square in some way, and sort of mesh into a more larger pedestrian corridor/square.

Impressive, yet quite unfortunate that it seems to mirror Toronto skyline with alot of copy cat generic glass towers.

Nice thinly veiled racist comment.

I’m confused...aside from that block that was demolished a decade ago, I don’t remember many more recent demolitions in walnut hills since then. Also, the recent demo of the buildings across the Kroger for scholar house where 1 story structures that I’m not sure were even historic tbh... That said, let’s not forget how otr was before 3cdc and the Mercer building project on vine. This will be a process for sure.

Are there any rumors about what the development plan is? Hopefully a 22 story tower with 200 plus apartments is still the idea in mind for that parcel.

I'm still hoping that as OTR revitalizes, especially as it cross north of liberty we will begin to see more immigrants decide to rent in otr as well. Can't tell you how many Indians/Asians/Muslims live in Sharonville/West Chester. There are literally parts of sharonville that have 2 indian grocery store, a few indian resturaunts, an asian grocery store, an asian bakery and an asian resturaunt all within the same strip mall. The best part is that many of them are on visas and work for p and g, and none of them want to live downtown. Hopefully that will one day change, because it will be a missed opportunity if otr is nothing but overpriced resturaunts and bars.

I'm not necessarily sure why...I know in my particular case, I've been mugged before, and have in very shady situations that have almost cost my life. I love urban environments, and I love living in the city, that said I understand the appeal of the suburbs since you aren't faceed with encounters such as these that are more common in urban environments. American cities (except for a minor few that I've traveled to) for those most part are much more dangerous than Canadian/European cities. Generational poverty, as well as the heroin epidemic, on top of guns being available like candy (which end up in the hands of drug dealers/homeless people who use these very guns to mug pedestrians) makes american cities much more difficult to traverse, especially if you like to hang out at bars/clubs late at night. I lived in Vienna for a semester as part of the student exchange program when I went to uc...The ability to traverse any street/alleyway through out any part of the city at any time of the night felt so damn liberating. Never did I once, encounter a shady situation. I miss that feeling, and I wish I could feel the same when I travel to any american city, but I can't. I always carry pepper spray, and a foldable knife in my pocket for protection when im out late at night, and I wish that didn't have to be the case. But such is life.

I don’t know why are we comparing mls ratings when the league itself is barely 20 years old. Also, I love historic buildings...I wish we can preserve them all. That said, give me a city that has life, pedestrians walking day and night. Cincy has a huge historic stock, but so very actual energy and life. Too man people just work there but not enough people actually live there, and still the mass majority that do unfortunately are in incredible generational poverty and many of them have long criminal records.

When housing supply doesn’t mean demand? There is a reason why south of liberty is seeing lot after lot redeveloped left and right...and there is a reason why north of liberty has had hardly no new infill construction to date. Having a temporary parking lot where you can perhaps make revenue from Findlay market residents/rhinegeist customers is not a bad way to make temporary revenue until there is an actual demand for new mixed use infill in north of liberty. Hopefully, elm and liberty will be a good start, as well as model group/urban sites, and 3cdc involvement....We all knew this was going to be a 20-25 year project. Hopefully enough of us are young enough to actually see north of liberty revitalized during that time span.

Sort of an offtopic question, but what is crime like in the short north area? I'm only asking, because I have a job offer in columbus, and I am contemplating moving from cincy to columbus. I was there earlier in the summer (for the first time) with friends. We went bar hopping, and the area felt lively and generally safe. There is alot of pedestrian traffic, even at night, so it seems somewhat difficult to get mugged/random beatings....that said, when our car got towed, we had to walk from odd fellows all the way to the udf by the osu campus (north high I believe?) to use an atm to retrieve cash to pay for the tow. Again, we were in a group, but generally speaking it felt safe. It was a saturday night, and there were enough pedestrians walking even at 3am where it didn't feel scary. That said, when we returned to the towing area, the guy from the towing company was relived to see us. He told how there were gun shots in the area, and how the short north/high north area was incredibly dangerous, and how he always had a revolver concealed in his pocket for safety. He shouted, "thank god you guys are safe". I sort of assumed he was the old jaded guy that watches too much news.....That said, I've heard quite a few stories about the homeless population that hang around the kroger area of short north (I guess high north?). I saw a reddit post from a few days ago, about how this guy was outside this cafe, at noon, smoking a cigarette, and an old drunk homeless man proceeded to beat him because the guy said no to giving him a cigarette. He called the police, and the police that it was his fault for hanging around in a dangerous neighborhood.... I also saw past articles (like the story in april) from this student who was stabbed by a homeless person, as well as the women who lived on short north who was kidnapped, raped and murdered and had her body thrown away into a park in the short north area. I've been told that for whatever reason the homeless in this particular area are extremely aggressive at times...and this sort of worries me. I have a girlfriend as well, who is pregnant, and from what I've heard from those who live in the short north area is that it's not an area that is 100% safe to walk alone at the dead of night, and even more so if you are a women. I'm just concerned if she chooses to work somewhere nearby in the short north area, or even just want to take the dog for a walk if this won't lead to potential trouble. Just looking for unbiased input! Again, I'm totally aware of the realities of living in an urban environment. Homeless people, drug addicts, drunks, etc are the realities of characters you will see when living in an urban environment. My main concern are the stories that I hear about how aggressive some of these homeless are, and how much of a nuisance they create because of there said aggression and leniency towards violence. I understand that the short north has undergone serious gentrification during the past 20-25 years, and that's its light years safer than what it once used to be. There are a lot of bars, clubs, restaurants, and osu and it's massive student body population is only a mile or 2 up the road. Usually, crime typically disperses into other neighborhoods when an area gentrifies. Rent goes up, low income housing disappears, drug dealers disappear because there are to many pedestrians on the street, etc, etc...that's why it made me curious as to where this crime is rooting from. With so much progress and gentrification, how can there still be a sense of uneasiness about this area?

I understand, but I also view OTR as a project that has another 20-25 years in the making before build out. I still think that North of Liberty, aside from the random scattered rennovations is still mostly in shambles. I think the street diet will be a good starting point connecting the 2 neighborhoods, and I think that we are slowly beginning to see big developers like 3cdc creep onto north of liberty (the alabama fish bar building for instance). That said, there are still stretches of south of liberty that still need attention (everything past 1500 vine, walnut, stretches of pendelton, the sycamore lots, main st business district still is dead aside from the initial few blocks where alladins/pins/lou vino/rosedale resides). I'm not mad for a developer for being patient. OTR still has a long way to go (even if the progress since the gateway quarter project has been amazing to date).

Some of you guys on here remind me of PTSD patients. Scars from the past, make some of you so untrusting about others intentions in an almost paranoia type of way..it's kind of scary, and it's very unique to this cincinnati section from what i've noticed. The columbus/cleveland sections on this forum are way more relaxed for whatever reason when discussing development (for the most part) lol. Like jim uber said, it seems like this parking lot is a temporary lot, and will eventually be replaced with phase 2 of elm and liberty. If the sycamore lots can be redeveloped, then I have faith that this won't be a long term surface lot situation. It also sounds like this is why elm and liberty was held up, so it's good news that this project can finally move forward once the boys and girls club building is demolished.

From the same owners as gypsies. Those are great, great people running this new establishment. I'm glad the cincy scene is getting some more lqbtq clubs/bars. Cincy has such a strong gay population, that it's a shame that the only legit place anywhere in the urban core for the gay community is below zero. Heck, even smaller Ohio cities like dayton have more gay oriented clubs. Finally catching up a bit to other ohio cities at least!

In a memo sent out today, 3cdc is trying to purchase the alabama fish bar building on race st in otr, and wants to own and redevelop the property

I guess if 3cdc really wanted to in the future, they could maybe take that empty lot (that i'm guessing is used for residential parking behind the buildings), and build some type of narrow dense structure that's taller in that space? On a side note, it's sort of crazy to think that 4 years ago, that block was mainly a grassy field, with 1 collapse historic structure, and a block down was a church that was almost demolished, and is now one of the most successful microbreweries in cincy.