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Thanks for the information! I only brought it up because of how crazy the line was for below zero...granted it was pride night, and a lot of tourists, but a lot of people just turned away because the line was so long. As I was waiting, I heard a couple ask another man in line if there were any other gay clubs/drag shows they could go to instead. He responded no, this is it. It was kind of sad, I guess to hear that response...

I think the Royal has started to close earlier. I was thinking of going there on Saturday night after below zero (around 1:30 ish) but it was completely dark inside. I’ve noticed this a couple times already....seems like business might not be doing so hot. I would also argue it’s less about Brand recognition, but the fact that the prices are overpriced. I stepped in thread once and saw the sign with 6 dollar burgers and I was out. The dude that stands on the corner of the drinkery and sells hot dogs and coneys is making a killing every weekend night...he got my money instead. Why? Because his prices are cheap. Drunk people typically want fast service and cheap smash and grab food.

Hell, make it a Chilli parlor, call it “OTR Chilli” with basic options of Chilli fries, conies, 3 ways. Make it a limited, cost effective menu. Maybe throw in some designer milk shakes for sweets and call it a day. Even if it isn’t the, “best”, people will still go there because it’s cincinnati style Chilli...plus people like eating Chilli when they are drunk in Cincinnati. There’s literally only 1 (I think) Chilli parlor in all of downtown in Skyline...which is weird to say the least...

The only draw for mt Adams is the pavilion imo. It’s a legitimately a great club and has an unbeatable atmosphere compared to the rest of the competition in cincy. The problem is that otr is way closer to Uber for uc kids...and there are way more variety of clubs to go to...even if you aren’t in the mood for a club, places like 16 bit, and (soon) Pins add variety to the crowd who want to do more than just drink. And even if you don’t want to do that you will have craft breweries like 3 points, Platform, Rheingeist, etc to drink at. You can go to otr and bar hope for 6 hours straight and not get board because of the sheer variety of drinking options. That’s the biggest x factor imo.

I’m still surprised that diner location is still just sitting there vacant... It’s literally wedged between the most popular club in downtown cincy in tree house and also wedged between another upscale bar with the rose dale. Then just a block down you have a new craft brewery in 3 points. You literally have a hoard of food trucks parked on the sycamore lots to serve food to the late night drunk crowd... You would think that diner would be prime real estate, no?

Bigger cities make it work. Otr can get to the point where main st on the weekends is like that every night even on the week day. We just need more residents in the urban core. Way to many tourists and the smaller places die on the week days.

Some observations from otr pride night... 1. The fact that Below Zero is the only gay club in the urban core is a tragedy. We need way more gay clubs to meet the demand, especially since cincy has a seemingly high gay friendly population. I kid you not, the line to get in below zero literally stretched past the Emery, on to Central Park Way. It took me about 2 hours to get inside at around 10pm last night. Simply ridiculous. 2. Once again late night food options in otr is such a struggle. Specifically on main st, goodfellas had a line that stretched a block, and had many a 1 hour wait line. For pizza... I’m not in tune with economics of otr and what it costs to open a business but Jesus how hard must it be to open a few more hole in the wall pizza parlors? There are just way to many bars and clubs, and simply not enough quick food options. Again, waiting for an hour to get a slice of pizza speaks volumes about the lack of supply versus the demand.

Maybe....but Mt Adams pavilion is still a huge draw. All 3 floors are always packed.

Sorry if this is slightly off topic..But I went down to the Banks last night (instead of typically going out to otr on a friday night) with a group of friends to check out the night life. I got to admit, the area definitely feels more "alive"..The few clubs/bars in the area, mixed in with some of the late night eateries (like jimmy johns), and hotel nearby definitely gave it a really lively vibe, even at 2am. Maybe, because there were alot of cubs fans down there...who knows honestly...But I honestly see a light for the banks. It definitely needs more 24/7 activity aside from gamedays, but the area definitely feels like it has evolved from where it was a few years ago IMO. Still a long way to go, but I'm impressed regardless (again, I probably haven't been down to the banks in over a year since today).... I would also add that the banks felt WAY safer than probably 90% of the areas in the urban core (aside from maybe say mt adams). There is a serious police presence down at the banks, and I truly feel they need to borrow some of these officers and have them patrol otr during the busy weekend nights. I sort of get, WHY suburbanites like to party down there. It definitely feels more calm, and safe, versus a more built urban neighborhood like OTR...Its not necessarily a bad thing honestly. I feel like it's maybe good to have a mixture to cater to those who want something a little less urban, and more urban lite.

I have to admit, what's going on in Oakley is quite impressive. The amount of development, and new tenants is pretty incredible in such a short period of time. Even though I wish the site layout could be more urban for some of these developments, there are still pedestrian sidewalks, and it's still much more walk-able than 9/10 suburban locations. I learned that Crunch is going to be located in Oakey..along with the largest tri-state Planet Fitness, along with the current LA Fitness, along with a new gym called Orange Theory Fitness. 4 gyms will all be located within 1-2 minutes from each other. Over saturation? Is oakley just getting so big that it needs 4 gyms?

https://instagram.com/p/BkS68jynFwi/ Ombre Gallery is a new jewelry store opening next to the Poke Hut restaurant in the Allision development...will open on July 14th.

Any update about what is going on with that race st project across from Music Hall? It involved demolishing 2 buildings? I know the hcb approved the project and everything but I’ve seen no movement on this whatsoever. Curious what’s going on?

Is that a knock on cincy? I feel like in most big booming cities rent rises are common because of the lack of supply and demand of housing options.

I don’t think alladin is trying to compete with the other vine st resturaunts tbh...

I’m guessing these apartments are being marketed towards the young professionals/medical professionals in the area? The rent prices are quite expensive and doubt many college students can afford these units.

Don't know if this was brought up or not, but here are some renderings for the Wellington Project (which I haven't seen before at least) https://www.apartments.com/one41-wellington-cincinnati-oh/bxp0dlc/ Apologizes if old.

WHY was the bar a crack den in the first place? Were the owners drug addicted themselves? Or did they feel that was the only way to get revenue from the bar?

New bar on 12th and Race called Cobblestone bar...opening soon. Fb/IG page set up but no info about owner or opening date yet.

Will we ever see another MetroMoves vote on the ballot again? I can say without a shadow of a doubt we will never be the city that we have the potential of being until we have legitimate high speed rail across cincy 52 neighborhoods and the suburbs.

I wonder whatever happened to that rumor about the Rheingeist gondola/beer garden concept from last year...guess it was just a man made rumor?

I mean that has happened in a lot of us cities as well...it’s not something super unique to cincy....hell, look at nyc and the demolition of the beautiful penn station..

Why will Jackson brewery take a long time to be developed? Is there something special that the brewery requires? Aside from a big money investor?

I think the only divide that separates Clifton and OTR is the fact that north of liberty is quite sketchy to walk across, especially at night. There is no doubt in my mind that if North is liberty was redeveloped you would see more college students and pedestrians walking up and down the hill...it’s not a bad walk either, it’s just that walking through north of liberty to get to the redeveloped stretches of otr is not the most appealing thought in the world.

I don't know much about the Shadyside neighborhood ^^^, but I feel like that could be a perfect model for future luxury retail in OTR... I noticed they have an Apple Store, GAP, Banana Republic, Rolex, J.Crew, all within 1-2 blocks from each other...and this doesn't appear to be near Pittsburgh CBD at all, but rather a small historic district on the outskirts of downtown Pitsburgh. Most of the dining options seem local on street view, but all of the retail are known luxury brands for the most part. This model would be perfect for OTR. Most people enjoy unique dining options, and eating local...but retail is different. People like brands that they are comfortable with, and that they know. Thats why you rarely see more than 2-3 people at a time in those weird junk stores on main street that sell knick knacks that almost no one ever buys.

Maybe I’m crazy but I feel like the former lacheys spot would be perfect for an apple store...the square footage seems to be enough inside.