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Does anyone know whom decides where the official Christmas tree is placed in Public Square? This year's placement is an odd choice ,since it is not placed centrally. It is west of the central crosswalk. The past three years have seen it placed in three different locations. I would prefer it to be along a central axis since Public Square is mostly a symmetrical layout. Other than that Public Square always looks great during Winterfest.

Hope Mayor Jackson doesn't see this. He might get the idea to turn Public auditorium into his indoor dirt bike location. LOL

I wish the proposed Ameritrust Tower could still be built. I feel the design still holds up.

I hope that LAND Studio realizes the #1 component to Shaker Square is public transportation. I don't hold much hope though since they were involved and instrumental in forgetting what Public Square was all about. They have done nothing to rectify the oversight and instead focus on adding unnecessary contemporary public art that they alone deem relevant to historic surroundings. I agree with PoshSteve that the first thing they will do is remove the mature trees. It is unfortunate that urban designers remove what should remain.

It amazes me that the elegant Rosales curved basal bridge originally planned for North Coast Harbor was scrapped because too many parts were foreign and would have lost its funding. The total cost of this bridge concept was $5.5 million dollars. Now Mayor Jackson and City Council want to borrow $6 million dollars for a subpar design that now costs $16.8 million. Time to say no to this design and go back to what was budgeted.

Well stated. LAND Studio has no business to be involved in the historic Shaker Square. Just look at Public Square as an example. A $32 million dollar budget rose to $50 million under their watch. Transit needs were an afterthought and now additional millions are needed to correct this. Look at The Bike Box they had placed in front of CVS in Shaker Square and you will see how their aesthetics do not match the architectural history of the area.

The official website for Stark Enterprises no longer has images on it's website for NuCLEus. http://www.starkenterprises.com/properties/nucleus/

I have always had issue with The Galleria at Erieview. The architecture of the tower and the mall never meshed for me. I am probably only a few that miss the original plaza that gave the building a sense of grandeur. Can the developers reskin and face the Mall portion to match the tower's aesthetic? I would have loved a concept similar to John C. Kluczynski Federal Building & US Post Office, Loop Station in Chicago,

I wonder how old that plan and video has been in the works. The tie in with The Malls and Lakefront development plan are very different than what has been built and designed. Th e plan for The Galleria reminds me of the atrium at The BP Building prior to it's renovation a year ago.

I would much rather see Euclid Ave storefronts turned back into a retail hub than build this mall that has no connectivity to the centralized, residential population growth in downtown.

Here are plans showing the components proposed north of First Energy Stadium. I don't understand why there is a need to put a road all along the northern edge of the development. This should be open green space

I am interested to see what the developers have planned between RRHF and GLSC. The video says an announcement should be made by late summer. This development will ultimately have an effect on whatever pedestrian bridge is planned to connect The Malls to the lakefront.

I was playing around with another option that would make the center area of Public Square safer and would include the reactivation of the promenades as crosswalk paths. The need for the bollards would be obsolete. Replace them and define the center crosswalk with raised bed planters that mimic the designs of the others. These add more greenery/planting areas and protects the pedestrians from the threat of terrorism from vehicles. The added feature for safety and helps to define the center areas for use would be the addition of full barrier crossing arms, aka train traffic arms. I also don't see why bikes would be banned from Superior. Public_Square_safety_modifaction_idea_copy.pdf

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cle-dead-tree-trouble-for-odot-shoreway-beautification-project Trees left dead on Cleveland Memorial Shoreway less than a year after being planted CLEVELAND - Dozens of newly planted trees lining Cleveland's Memorial Shoreway from Downtown Cleveland to Edgewater park seem to be dead or may be dying.The trees planted in Oct. 2017 are part of the Ohio Department of Transportation's massive $41.5M Lakefront West beautification project.

Not sure the land bridge proposal would ever happen. The design would cost much more than the 25 million that was allotted for a connector. The Group Plan Commission is having trouble to just raise the two million dollars for the modifications to Public Square. The other issues would be to see what Dick Pace has planned for development between RRHF and GLSC . Remember that the proposed Superman sculpture and fountain had to be removed form th e terminus of the proposed Rosales designed bridge. At this point all plans should be on hold until the intermodal station and the lakefront development are better defined. Speaking of bridges, does anyone know what the status of the long proposed inner harbor pedestrian bridge is?

I admire the concept. Unfortunately, the hand formation is menacing. I wish the hand was in a more relaxed position. I do fear it will be referenced to The Addams Family. It could have been interesting to have changed the form To Rodin's Thinker's feet. It would be a nod to the missing feet from the damaged sculpture outside of CMA

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/this-is-why-people-walking-near-public-square-are-fed-up I hope Superior Ave resurfacing includes the sidewalks

I am not sure if the architectural firm accidentally noticed the top of the new tower has the shape of a coffin. lol. Please look at KJP's above post of the architectural model

Absolutely love the Thunderbird plan! Build it asap.

I am glad to hear that the local news is beginning to address the oversights to yet another attempt to modify the flawed redesign of Public Square. Interesting that Councilman Kerry McCormack is the only on eta comment on the lack of bike lanes from The City. Shouldn't Anthony Coyne be held responsible since he is the head of the Group Plan Commission overseeing the design elements from Field Operations?

Interesting this is coming down and Gilbert's insistence of a skywalk to JACK was necessary. I wish that one was coming down as well

if Mayor Jackson is concerned of the threat of vehicular terrorism aren't Malls A, B, and C just as vulnerable? Does anyone know what is the reason the crosswalk has been shortened to 24 feet?

This modification makes the entire continuous promenade shape obsolete. I agree that the design flaws should have been addressed prior to any construction and now we are stuck with band aid solutions. We are now looking a park that was supposed to cost no more than $32 million dollars now standing at $20 million in overruns. I have heard there is a shortfall coming to maintain the park and operate. The Group Plan needs to raise an additional 2 million per year for that.

This attempt to fix the "terrorism and safety" threats is flawed as well. The distance to traverse Superior may look shorter but pedestrians are still exposed in the 12' extended curb bump outs . The Key Bank Promenades still will look like obvious paths to cross the road. At this point it would be nice to see some philanthropist or private donation step up and donate 12 million dollars and go back to closing Superior. This plan continues to show this design continues to act as a band aid. A little better in aesthetics but still has flaws to the original implemented design. Also, note that this design doesn't implement any bike lanes back thru Public Square.

https://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2018/06/ugly_public_square_barriers_co.html Public Square's Jersey barriers could be replaced with bollards if $2M can be raised: Group Plan Commission By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer CLEVELAND, Ohio - A new design commissioned by the city-county Group Plan Commission shows how bollards and other measures could replace the concrete barriers that have marred the renovation of Public Square for more than a year. Not sure if this really works as they intend to shorten the crosswalk distance to 24' The bollard's are still 48' between the north and south placement. There is 12' of unprotected exposure eon either side between the bollard and the ADA ramps . Isn't the whole point to protect the pedestrian from vehicular safety and terrorism? I would rather see most of these bollards implemented with more tree plantings.