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Has anyone seen if or know if the glass has protective film so birds know of the danger? Love the glass but worry about the dangers

I am concerned how long it is taking for the building's metal cladding to be complete. With the sidewalks open and how they staged the metal panels on them it will be interesting to see the process continue. Does anyone know the status for install to start again? Did the building's sale include the building's completion?

SoFi Stadium was completely paid for by Stan Kroenke with all private money. This stadium was $5 billion dollars. The Haslams have the money if they truly cared what they want to build. Nobody in the public sector were consulted or asked to design a structure the taxpayers couldn't afford this expenditure. Billionaire's projecting what others cant afford is just wrong. No public financing should be given for a private investment

If the Brook Park plan is to cost 3-3.5 billion couldn't this money be enough to turn over the lakefront site and all the lakefront land over to The Haslam Group to develop. That would be a win win for all. The infrastructure and land bridge already has some serious money to make that part a reality

I truly want The Haslam Group to explain exactly what the Brook Park location will deliver on it's promises. So far they taught a Super Bowl and large stadium concerts. Both of these are rare occurrences. All other events they speak of are poaching from existing venues and out of Cleveland. None of this is more than greed and please stop stating this benefits the majority of Clevelander's when I am sure many will be unable to afford tickets and price gouging they will ask us. Lastly, the shelf life a new stadiums aren't as long as one thinks they are. The NFL and their owners always are complaining they want the newest, best venues that cities now cannot afford. What happens when the Brook Park stadium is obsolete in the next 30 year cycle?

I am interested to see how fire/emergency vehicles are able to traverse through areas now marked with single lanes. This photograph shows the fire engines need to cross the protected bike lanes. The newest issue is maintaining the delineators. Most of these last a very short time. I really hope bike lanes could be standardized to what works best. Every time I see a new install the markings and styles change. Don't get me wrong , I think bike lanes are important I just think the kinks need to be worked on

Should developments consider Burke closed ? I ask this if the height limitations were removed from the equation

As for The Brook Park site, would anyone really want to live next to an airport if you had an money to spend on an upscale condominium or apartment? I just cant picture this concept ever to gain traction. It reminds me of taking two steps backwards from the momentum of getting people back to the heart of Cleveland. More urban flight

@KJP Thanks again for taking the lead on all information for this development. At the end of all of this I come away that this is nothing more than a money grab by the Haslam Group. The amount of wasted money to entice the city with their original lakefront development plan that they developed with remaining on the lakefront seems cruel. Cleveland and football is synonymous at the current location. Cleveland Browns fans were never about luxury and comfort. We were always there as a middle class community that fights no matter what the conditions are. This move to Brook Park changes the dynamics of a team. It is just another NFL team with no soul or understanding what makes the Browns whom they are. When can we get owners that truly understand our community?

@KJP As always, thank you for your reports. If it weren't for you I doubt we would hear anything. I am so over these greedy owners whom try to sell us taxpayers that new and shiny is needed. There is nothing in this site that makes it better for the city or the existing entertainment/restaurants to thrive. This is nothing more than a billionaire wanting to take everything that works downtown and pocket all too himself. Just ask yourself how much you will pay for parking and tickets to their stadium? I don't like the idea that Cleveland Browns will now play in a glorified mall setup. Shameful and I will no longer support the team. This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Cuyahoga County taxpayers and Cleveland should refuse to pay anything for this. Let it be on Brook Park residents and the state to come up with the money.

Maybe this gives hope that all the bridges can be relit like they were in 1996

@CleveFan 100% agreed. I wished the design for SHW was more in line with what the planned Ameritrust Tower was to be. While I like the all glass tower, that was built, the reflective nature makes it almost invisible from afar.

Abandoned Skyscraper: Rockefeller Building - Cleveland, Ohio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dEbbvO_cZI Check this title on Youtube. This poster was able to get inside the building and one can see what horrible shape the interior is. I wasn't expecting to see interiors like this. I am also surprised by the lack of security to get inside.

Each new development is doing a great job in revitalization. I do worry that the city isn't maintaining Euclid Avenue very well. It is time to repair crumbling concrete and re-stripe the lane markings. Many lamp posts are crooked.

I am excited by this first build. It holds great promise for Bedrock's commitment to the entire proposed development

I have to ultimately blame Jimmy and Dee Halsam for the state of the Browns. They hold all the cards on hiring the players and staffing. Their focus has never been about winning on the field. They have focused on uniforms and stadium issues. Time to clean house altogether. We need a team that connects on and off the field.

I love this skyline view! I different perspective that makes downtown appear balanced

This photograph is great showing the new lampposts this development installed. I wonder why they were allowed to change the style and is this something planned for the rest along Euclid Ave.

@coneflower With regards only to this project, there were so many iterations that were presented that one can't help but to ask the question if the best choices were made. It has been disappointing to see what could have been and where it landed. Value engineered architecture and the lack of understanding detail principals and scale make this feel off. Surface material changes with no setbacks is lazy and doesn't provide anything of value. The form of this building is what is flawed and now that the first two floors were approved the rest is just dressing.

I was disappointed with the landmark's decision to allow this project's approval. So much focus on the southern facade treatment that nobody had the guts to say it's just not an attractive building.

I love they way "Scruffy" has been detailed! Kudos whomever did that. I do wonder why the street lamp posts aren't the same ones that line downtowns Euclid Ave. Does anyone know if the city is planning to update all of the others to match?

The fact that there is no ground floor commercial space is just one of the many flaws of this design proposal. Why bother saving the old ticket booth since I don't see any plans for it's activation. None of the final notes from The Ohio City Design Review were added to the Landmark's Commission presentation. The setback, which Landmark's first disapproved of back at the very beginning of the project, has been eliminated. This was commission member Trott whom asked Geis if the setback remained and he said yes. Obviously not true and it seems to have been forgotten about The little farmer's market stand within the garage entrance cut through is just odd and the renderings are deceptive. Again no commercial retail at the base except the apartment complex lobby. I don't understand why there are two contemporary chandeliers hanging from the garage cut through. The north elevation is odd that the hotel awning component remains and that the south elevation plaza appears to make you think there is a cafe in a hotel lobby component. Not enough parking spaces for the all units to have 1 spot in the garage. If this design wanted to incorporate the use of the reactivation of The Veteran's Memorial Bridge one would think you would provide more amenities to your development. Yes this project has been value engineered. At this point the project just doesn't provide anything to draw people to an area that is being heavily invested in. Unfortunately it appears Geis and Panzica lack the ability to give us anything more than a design that lost all the important parts that the hotel element would have provided. What great incentive is there to move into this development? 2 pickle ball courts is all I see. I also feel like the Landmark's Commission lacks the will power or energy to deny this project from being built. Yet another lost opportunity for something worthy for this entry to Ohio City

I vote for "Marie" since her name was always referenced on the old lot sign

Once again I feel this site is too important to end up with such a poor design. I was remembering a building that was inspiringly historic in its detailing but contemporary at the same time. The project is the Grand Mulberry Apartments that is located in Brooklyn NY. While the facade pattern is traditional, the application of the hand-molded domed bricks is very modern—each brick was carefully positioned within the double-stacked running bond coursing to present the illusion of a traditional Italianate façade. When viewed from a distance the shadow effect gives the facade a ghosting window of a building that may have once stood here. The new windows are contemporary and are placed in an even grid. Old meets new This design would even out the Veteran's Memorial Bridge anchor points of east and west. The east balance is The Rockefeller Bldg and this design pays homage to a forgotten style and yet shows Cleveland's modern approach. It also creates a memorable addition to Ohio City and sculptural element for a view of Bridgeworks from the new Irishtown Bend Park. This also moves the idea away from unnecessary building material changes to create movement on a continuous surface. Shadow and light provide that effect naturally. If the developer and commissions are afraid of one color sections could be adjusted with tonal brick colors with change in domed brick positioning patterns At the end there is just so much more this can be with a little imagination I hope Geis and the developer see and read our postings

What is most frustrating aspects of Bridgeworks is that there were some actual great designs that were passed on because of the landmarks commission input/disagreements. With approvals consistently denied it pushed the timeline of construction into the covid building costs and increased interest rates. Hence Geis was brought in and a value engineered design happens. I will wait to hear what the landmarks commission feels about the latest plans. Will they send more adjustments beyond what Ohio City Design Review just asked for? I am curious what iteration of all the past designs would you have chosen to build? You can include the Geis design as an option. My choice would have been the first high rise design that was brick