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Yea, the entire premise behind "why can't Cbus be more like Nashville and Austin" ignores the fact that it is A LOT like those places, especially Austin. Cbus is booming. It's the fastest growing large metro in the MIdwest. Austin is the fastest growing large metro in the country. The biggest difference between the two is that Austin gets A LOT more immigration. Want Cbus to be more like Austin? Start taking in more immigrants.

I mean... I think any building down there should be as tall as the market will allow, but why wouldn't people be attracted to live in a 5 story apartment building? Every new building built downtown gets leased up immediately. If they build more apartments at the Banks they will be filled quickly.

I don't get what your point is in the first sentence, we're talking about normalized data here. It doesn't matter if there are more states with an income tax. My post had nothing to do with the fact that I'm a Democrat and I didn't feel attacked. Just giving you some information because it is a common misconception that taxes affect migration trends. The evidence doesn't support that conclusion. I had no idea that Shapiro, Rogan, and Musk are moving to Nashville or Austin, but I highly doubt their popularity has anything to do with that. They were popular places to move due to climate and low housing costs before any of those people appeared in our cultural consciousness. As for the final point, I don't think having zero state taxes would change anything about Columbus. As the article I posted points out, more rich people move from Texas to California than the other way around. The states that attract the most wealthy people (California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Hawaii, Virginia) are not low tax ones. Alternatively, if low taxes were such a draw everyone would be moving to Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

"People who do move are nearly as likely to move from low-tax states to high-tax states as in the other direction — in some cases, more likely. In the past two decades, more households moved from no-income-tax Florida to Georgia, North Carolina, and nine other states with income taxes than moved to Florida from these states." "Primarily low- and moderate-income households, not high-income households, are migrating to states without income taxes. For example, of the people moving from New York to Florida between 2008 and 2012, more than three times as many had incomes below $50,000 as above $100,000, and these distributions are similar to the overall state population. If income taxes were a major reason that more people move from California to Texas than vice versa, one would expect much greater representation of high incomes among the former than the latter; but, the reverse is true." "The vast majority of academic research using sophisticated statistical techniques concludes that differences in state tax systems and levels do not have a significant impact on interstate migration." https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/state-taxes-have-a-negligible-impact-on-americans-interstate-moves

Every neighborhood, including touristy ones and destination ones, needs residential density. Look around the country to the most successful places and they all have people living there. Businesses appreciate it because it means customers all the time, even when there are no events. And it makes the streetscape vibrant round the clock. So do what you have to do in regards to setbacks, sound proofing, viewsheds, etc. but the remaining lots need to have residential density incorporated one way or another.

It seems pretty silly on its face to argue that people who have a choice don't move to places that reflect their values. My gay cousin moved to Massachusetts and my racist aunt moved to South Carolina. I don't know if either of them explicitly did so because of politics but they definitely chose places they feel comfortable. And therein lies the rub, politics leads to policy. And policy makes a place attractive to certain people. Massachusetts leads the country in quality of life, life expectancy, household income, and educational attainment. That is attractive to people who are discerning.

I'm pretty much the same. I can't say that I would never move to the South. But it would take a lot of money. There are lots of people in Cincinnati who won't even consider moving directly across the river because of politics/culture.

Exactly. Also, my neighbors are Gen Xers who owned a home in California and recently sold it to move to Cincinnati. They didn't want to leave California. They loved it there. But being closer to some family in the Midwest and being able to get a bigger house for half the cost of what they sold their Cali house for enticed them enough. They didn't "flee" California though, like some people are trying to characterize it. All else equal they would've stayed.

And yet crickets from the Enquirer. We got weekly updates on ridership when it wasn't performing well.

This is conventional wisdom but it isn't really true. It is true that California and the Northeastern states are seeing significant outmigration, but not "mass amounts" and not because people want to leave. It's been discussed here before a lot, but among high earning folks places like California, Washington, New York, and Massachusetts are seeing the largest gains. There's a significant net in-migration among households making $100k or more per year. And in absolute numbers, California has seen the 3rd most population growth this decade. New York state has seen the 7th most. Being densely populated to begin with, the percentage increases are not as big as some other states. And yet, enough people are leaving those places that they are seeing net negative overall migration. But it is mostly people who are low income or retiring. They are leaving to escape high housing costs, which are a thing because so many people with the means to do so want to live in those places. On the other hand, Florida and Texas attract a lot of people who are retiring (Florida) or looking for lower housing costs (Texas). The states that people are truly leaving en masse are places like Mississippi and West Virginia.

Yea anecdotally I know several people who have left Ohio because of the politics and I know several others who are from the Northeast and would never entertain the thought of living in Ohio because of the politics. I think when you look at economic outcomes in places like California, Maryland, New York, and Massachusetts vs deep red places like Mississippi, Alabama, and West Virginia it becomes very clear that there are people with means making choices not to live in the red places. Even economically powerful red states like Texas are seeing their growth in the liberal metro areas (and the state as a whole is trending left).

You guys had kegs of Keystone Ice? That stuff has as much alcohol as an IPA. I would imagine a lot of people ended up with alcohol poisoning. Our kegs had Keystone Light, which is the cheap beer that is more well-known as a college student favorite.

That's certainly the theory. But Biden is quite moderate and has already passed some transformative legislation and is about to give us a huge infrastructure bill. The stimulus bill cut childhood poverty in half, for example. Progressives have been trying to do that for years. Now we just have to make it permanent. Sometimes incrementalism is best because it doesn't spawn the huge backlash that extreme positions do.

For their outside set up they have a menu. It's hot dogs, brats, metts, cheddar metts, hot metts, pepperjack metts, and burgers. The burgers are really good. You can do single or double, with or without cheese. They have a bunch of toppings options and you can get potato chips and a pop with it.

So need-based scholarships? The universities still aren't free, they just provide aid to certain in-state students who can't afford tuition. But semantics aside, these are very good programs. I went to college on an academic and need-based full tuition scholarship. I still had to take out loans and work a job to cover living expenses because my parents could not afford to help. But I couldn't have done it without the scholarship.

Okay? Private toll roads had a hard time competing when the government started building them for free. Nobody is suggesting we were better off before. Also, what state schools are offering free tuition already? I can't think of any.

People with liberal arts degrees actually do quite well in the workplace. The ROI on a liberal arts degree is damn good. The real problem with the student debt crisis is people that take out a lot of debt and don't finish a degree. Or get price gouged by a private online school. But fundamentally, public education should be free. Saddling young people with tons of debt in their 20s and 30s is bad for society and bad for the economy. It leads to all kinds of horrible outcomes. So even if most that finish a degree end up ahead in the long run, the suffering they endure and the lost productivity we see during their younger years take a terrible toll on them and on our society as a whole. I attended public undergraduate and graduate schools. I took out a lot of loans and I have them mostly paid off. But I would 100% support loan forgiveness because I'm not a sociopath that wants other people to suffer in an unjust system just because I did.

Who is the DNC? The DNC is a decentralized and loosely organized collection of state and local parties made up of average Joe precinct execs and party activists. You act like it is some overarching, all controlling corporation or something. I voted for Bernie. I think it is nonsensical to say that the primary was rigged against him. We have to stop with this nonsense.

It looks decently sized to me. That's a lot of deck chairs around it. It's not really for swimming laps as much as it is for lounging in.

Awesome pic! They make a HUGE difference. What kind of trees are these?

It is great. Probably the best Kroger I've ever been in. I was surprised to read that post too.

Kenard Kroger also has gates.

They have a reopening soon sign on the window.

I liked the idea of the Blues. Then Ohio could have the Blues and the Reds.

The Reds are also named after their socks. So three socks teams.