DEPACincy

12/23

You can bet on that.

If it had come out that they actually were using WhatsApp THEN I would be more outraged. But they weren't. Because they weren't doing anything nefarious and none of them thought it was a big deal. That's kind of the whole point. They weren't trying to cover their tracks, which would've actually been a big deal.

This is true of Philly too. People from NYC come to Philly and are blown away by how peaceful it is. Density doesn't have to be anxiety inducing.

And there are exhibits in DC and Philadelphia describing the horrendous institution of slavery and how both George Washington and William Penn contributed to it. You can visit the original President's House right next to the Liberty Bell to see the names of Washington's slaves and how they lived. It's a wonderful honor to them and a great example of how to put historical events into context. Rather than presenting Washington as a deific individual above criticism, it humanizes him and educates about his many failings despite his heroic efforts. It's possible that we should recognize nuance in this. Charles McMicken is still going to have a building named after him, albeit with context just as we've given Washington and Penn. It's also possible that we can recognize that Washington and Penn contributed to the horrible institution of slavery but also had great achievements that merit them still being honored in ways that Charles McMicken did not earn? It's possible that Oscar Robertson, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Levi Coffin, or Sarah Mayrant Fossett would be better choices for the street to be named after. It's funny that opponents of renaming things scream about how the crazy liberals are painting things with a broad brush but the people advocating for renaming are doing no such thing. It's actually the opponents of renaming that are putting forward these ideas as straw men.

I don't like Pastor, but I can admit when he is right. Anyway, let's get back on topic.

Not "might." He DID own slaves. And he raped them. And he created a whites-only school. In a time when, not only was slavery illegal in Ohio, but the legislature had recently passed a law freeing any slave that step foot into the state. And other universities in the state were enrolling black students. So people knew slavery was bad, yet McMicken didn't care. And surely people knew rape was bad. Yet, McMicken didn't care. Anyway, that's definitely a discussion for another thread.

I think that instead of building a couple more garages you can build a couple of apartment complexes on those sites and you will have more customers in a month than the total that currently come from Anderson, Blue Ash, Bridgetown, Florence, and Montgomery combined. This is anecdotal, but when I moved back to the region I found out that one of my high school best friends lived in Florence so I reached out about grabbing dinner. Here's how that conversation went: Me: I'd love to grab dinner but I don't have a car yet so I need to walk there. Wanna grab a bite in OTR? Him: Ooohh yeaaaa, sorry I really hate driving in the city. What about the Buffalo Wild Wings in Florence? Me: Yea, like I said, I don't have a car yet so it would be very tough for me to get out there. Maybe we can meet somewhere in Covington? Him: Yea, like I said, not really good at driving in the city. I get too anxious. Me: Ok, well what if we did somewhere in Mainstrasse? That way, you can get right off the highway, park your car, and we can walk to our destination. No city driving necessary. Him: Ok, I guess I can do that. Let's shoot for 7pm. At 6:45 pm he texted me that there was no way he was going to be able to make the drive. It was too anxiety inducing. But hit him up after I get a car and we can grab dinner in Florence. I did not hit him up after that bull crap. And I tell this story because I meet way more people from the places you listed with his attitude than not. Just last week we had a happy hour at work at Holiday Spirits. There is easy parking just across the street, in a nice parking lot. It could not be any easier to get in and out. The next day, my secretary--who lives in Bridgetown--told me how scared she was after she left because she drove one block and "there were guys at the corner staring at me. I'm glad I didn't break down or I would've died!" Anyway, build more housing, not garages.

If Mt. Auburn keeps adding residents someone will seize the opportunity.

Maybe they'll incorporate steps connecting to Drake Street. But I don't think people will have a problem using the Young Street steps. It's only a 15 minute walk from this site to 3 Points Brewery or MOTR via the Young St steps. It's only about a 10 minute walk to Nicola's.

The "multiple streets with the same name" thing is a problem in Philly too, since the city was many different municipalities before the county was consolidated. One interesting tidbit is that there was no Main Street in the original boundaries of Philly, just Market (originally High) and Broad. But Manayunk, which used to be a separate municipality has a Main Street. So today if you're on Main Street in Philly, you're actually like 6 miles from the actual "main" street (which is arguably Market or Broad, depending on who you ask).

I live within those boundaries. I have neighbors who say they used to call our part of Northside the "warzone." It's definitely changed a lot. Now if we can just get them to pave the damn streets.

Couldn't get a pic, but two new foundations are being poured for houses at the corner of Mad Anthony and Boyd. Boyd is a mess of a street still, so this could be the beginning of wholesale change in that little pocket of Northside. The little house next to the site in the Google image below is also being renovated. I'm excited to see what these new construction homes will look like. https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/opal/ezTrakAPDList.aspx?ezstdadrtag=4110||MAD ANTHONY|ST||||CINC|CINC|02210019004504110M|022100190045|022100190045|CINCINNATI https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/opal/ezTrakAPDList.aspx?ezstdadrtag=4114||MAD ANTHONY|ST|GJ1297137469|||CINC|CINC|02210019004604114M|022100190046|022100190046|CINCINNATI

It isn't Anderson residents that are supporting OTR businesses. I know a lot of people in Anderson. They mostly eat on Beechmont Avenue. They come into the city once every couple of months maybe. Unless they work here. Then they mostly drive in, park in a garage, and drive out. The people supporting OTR businesses live in OTR, Downtown, Mt. Adams, Uptown, Northside, Pleasant Ridge, Norwood, Oakley, Hyde Park, Columbia-Tusculum, Covington, Newport, etc. Basically, the City. Some of these people drive there for sure. But many take Uber, Lyft, the bus, scooters, bikes, etc. And the percentage not getting there by car is only going to increase over time. I live in Northside. We eat out in OTR regularly. We Uber or take the bus. If it is nice, we'll bike. Occasionally we drive, and it is super easy to find a spot within a block or two from our destination.

Remember when Anchor supposedly went out of business because of the parking permits? Well, that space wasn't vacant very long: https://photos.citybeat.com/inside-over-the-rhines-losanti-a-boutique-steakhouse-in-the-former-anchor-otr-space/?slide=1&losanti_hb

I disagree with you because you got the basic facts completely backward. As usual.

How does this explain why Miami and OU are doing just fine but Akron and Toledo are struggling? OU, for one, has large alumni clusters in Columbus, Cleveland, DC, NYC, and Chicago. Miami obviously has a lot in Cincy and Chicago. So I don't think being rural hurt you if you have clusters of alumni in urban areas. But if most of your alumni are sticking close to home (Toledo, Akron) then you might be hurting to find employment if you try to leave those metro areas.

I have read the ordinance. The only rules the ordinance imposes is that the insurer must be licensed by the Ohio Dept of Insurance, they must permit payment of premiums on a monthly basis, the insurance must be effective the entire term, the coverage must be at least as much as the security deposit amount, and the insurer must agree to approve or deny a claim no more than two business days after it is made. That's it. These are not difficult to abide by. You seem to be implying that there are additional regs in the ordinance, but there are not. Did you leave out the part where I said I had a master's degree in public policy and focused on housing issues on purpose? I've also been the person writing these ordinances on many occasions. It seems this may be projection. I've actually read the ordinance. It seems you have not. Or you're being dishonest. You already demonstrated that you don't understand the dynamics of low-income renters by claiming that most stay in one rental for many years. The funny thing about this entire exchange is that instead of actually providing other options or explaining why you thought the idea was bad by citing actual language from the ordinance that you objected to, you repeatedly misrepresented the ordinance and your own understanding of housing issues. And you did so in the most obvious and easily debunked way possible. This is why a lot of people here don't like to engage with you. It's just not productive. I'm done with this exchange now.

This is false. Three companies in Ohio provide this product and meet the standards. And it is very likely that more companies will start offering it once this legislation is in place. Yes it is. I have a master's degree in public policy and housing was once of my areas of concentration for my graduate research. My partner is a housing attorney. The article is accurate, I assure you. That's just not true. I'm sorry. Repeating a claim doesn't make it accurate. Please stop sharing misinformation. This would be laughable if it wasn't such bullsh*t. To believe this, one must assume that all landlords are wonderful people who are looking out for their tenants and never try to take advantage of them. Many landlords know that the law favors them over a poor renter who has no resources for a legal fight and they will definitely take advantage of this. Again, my partner goes after these landlords on a daily basis in court. If all responsible tenants got their security deposits back then housing attorneys wouldn't be overwhelmed with these cases. It quite literally is. This is easy to understand. If you can't afford a lump sum security deposit, it is very hard to find housing. Many people have become homeless because of this. Some do. Unfortunately they are not as common as you seem to think. And we shouldn't have to rely on the selflessness of landlords. No you're not. You've gotten several key facts wrong in your posts. It seems you actually have very little understanding of this issue. Look, I don't think this proposal is a silver bullet. And it might not be effective in the end. But it is worth a shot. It is directed at a very real problem and could potentially help lots of people in our city. Because there are a lot of predatory landlords out there and there are a lot of people who cannot afford a security deposit.

How shortsighted. These business owners are shooting themselves in the foot.

Not true at all. Several companies offer this product. No one is mandating it. It is only being required as an option. The tenant can choose to pay a security deposit. This rarely happens. In fact, working class folks tend to move around more than higher income folks because they end up stuck with bad units and bad landlords. My partner is a housing attorney so she lives this everyday. It is interesting that you can call someone "flat out wrong" and then get this basic fact completely backwards. https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/673963?seq=1 For many, a $600 payment up front might as well be a million dollars. Their only actual choice is homelessness. And as I already pointed out, it is very unlikely that they'll live in this unit long enough for the monthly fee to cost them more than the security deposit they'd never get back anyway. This is not mandating that everyone use this product. It is only requiring that landlords provide the option. It seems like you think you are an expert on this but you didn't even know that low-income people move around a lot. That fact, in itself, undermines your entire argument. But I'm sure you'll disregard it and will not reconsider your opinion.

Most renters will be better off with security deposit insurance. Landlords are predatory too and most tenants never get their security deposits back. I'd rather pay a small monthly amount than the huge lump sum that I'm almost guaranteed to never get back.

Yea, I'm not sure it solves the problem. You could start throwing in all kinds geographic obstacles to account for. What about the Ohio River? What about topography? What about the effect of being split between two states? Cincy development spreads farther north than it does south. I think we just have to accept that there is no perfect way to compare. One of the reasons I'm collecting this data is because I've been developing a "sprawl index." It's not ready yet, but I think it'll be a pretty good measure of how sprawling a metro area is.

A circle with a 5 mile radius has 78 square miles. A circle with a 10 mile radius has 314 square miles.

Let's take it out even farther. Here is the 10-mile radius. In my opinion, this might be the best measure of a city's true size. NYC is at 7 mil, getting closer to the 8.4 mil in its actual boundaries. Chicago jumps from 7th at the 5-mile radius, to 3rd at the 10-mile radius. At 2.5 mil, it is also very close to its actual 2.7 mil Philly is at 2.2 mil, up from its actual population of 1.6 mil. Density! Las Vegas still surprisingly large, with 1.4 mil. Baltimore is almost as big as Houston by this measure. Columbus jumps up to 17th at 960k. Again very close to its actual pop of 893k. Just above Atlanta. Cleveland takes a big jump from 248k at 5-mile radius to 816k at 10-mile radius. Surpasses Cincy. Cincy falls to 25th, settling in at 790k. More than 2.5 times its actual city-proper population. Dayton is still bigger than Nashville. The other Ohio cities settle in at the bottom of the list. Notably Akron comes in more than twice its actual population. Canton comes in about 4 times its actual population. Overall, I think this radius is most indicative of how much of a "big" city each city actually is. Ohio cities are "bigger" than their actual populations indicate due to small geographic boundaries. Philly, Boston, Las Vegas, San Fran, and Baltimore are bigger than their actual populations, while Houston, Phoenix, and Dallas are smaller.