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A bunch of ADUs in CUF would be a huge win. It's probably the neighborhood with the biggest housing shortage in the city and it's because there's not nearly enough housing for students. Even better, all the single family areas in CUF should be rezoned for multifamily.

Yea they prioritized the needs of the vocal minority. It's frustrating.

The NIMBYs are in control. I'm glad this was passed but sad it's so watered down. Hopefully this is an incremental step and the connected communities legislation is more robust. But the problem is that the only people who show up to the engagement sessions are NIMBYs.

My guess is the final version will look nothing like those renders. They have the actual architect on the team now. They'll want to build their own vision.

Dayton officials were definitely keyed in on the pursuit of the flight and selling Cincinnati-Dayton as one region was a part of the pitch. I don't know if their tourism folks have been doing anything though. Or to what extent they even have tourism people?

Charlotte has a slightly larger metro population and a few more Fortune 500 companies. But about 9.4 million people live within 100 miles of downtown Cincinnati compared to 7.9 million for Charlotte. We are the center of a larger region to draw people from. The other thing at play is risk. You have to factor that in. Mason is a proven commodity. Charlotte may have a lot of upside but it also has a risk of downside.

I don't think this is true. You could consolidate the sprawling parking into a few garages and unlock a ton of developable land.

Did you read the article? The actual amount committed by the state, county, and city combined is much higher.

The actual cost of attending college hasn't gone up in awhile. In 2014, adjusted for inflation, the average annual cost of tuition and fees at a four year public institution was $9,499. In 2020, it was $9,375.

I'm sure they did say that. But council is the lawmaking body. They can just pass an ordinance changing it. They don't need the planning dept. to vet it. I could make the changes in about 15 minutes with a sharpie and some white out. It's such a minor change.

Yes, he is Larry's son. He also ran against Vance in 2022. He came in third in the Republican primary.

Gotcha. I do agree that Jeffreys is going about this the wrong way. The idea, I think, was to use the development moratorium on parking lots to have the planning department study removing the use from the zoning code, and that this step in the process would help win over any opposition folks might have. "Look! We studied it and the study found it was a good idea!" But we already know it's bad to have a bunch of surface lots downtown for all the economic and environmental reasons that are obvious. He should've just put forth a motion to change the zoning code and be done with it. The Chavez family would be mad, but they'd move on in a few months. Instead we have a drawn out, year plus process, that may or may not end with changing the zoning code. It's completely unnecessary and makes it a bigger political fight than it needs to be. As an aside, if I worked for the Chavez family I'd be pushing them to embrace this. If you own an asset, you don't want it to be easy to produce more of that asset. You want scarcity. Their parking lots are worth more in a world where it is illegal to build more.

Ok, then if I accept that, zoning law doesn't say you're entitled to the best economic use, only AN economic use. I'm only allowed to build a single family house on my property, even though it would be more economical for me to build an apartment building. There are thousands of uses that the zoning code bans. Surface parking doesn't have special legal protections.

Lots of zoning codes around the country have areas where surface lots are banned. Control of uses is a fundamental part of Euclidean zoning. There are no taking of property rights here because the property can be used productively and economically for like 1,000 other things.

Lakewood and Cleveland Heights were also two of the biggest population losers in the state for 2022. It has nothing to do with crime or schools. It's just demographic changes and lack of in migration to the region.

There's lots of NIMBY zoning in big cities too. It's illegal to build at higher densities in much of Manhattan, not to mention the outer boroughs. One of the reasons Jersey City has grown so fast is because they have relatively relaxed zoning. And rents are low for the area as a result. The area around Golden Gate Park is all low rise single family. There's no reason that should be the case.

Poorly worded on her part but if she means it is an indictment of their housing policies then yes she is 100% correct.

How can you be so confident of this? Abandonment was not the fate for similar row house neighborhoods without highways in other cities. I'm thinking of places like South Philadelphia and Canton in Baltimore. Certainly white flight still would have affected the West End but the level of abandonment and destruction would have been very unlikely without the highway running right through it.

Those LA examples are such expensive neighborhoods not because the highway didn't do damage, but because there's an insane housing shortage.

Well, I didn't see Charlotte coming at all. But I'll double down on what I said above. He might move it, but he'd be stupid to do so. I think more likely he's just trying to put pressure on Ohio to cough up more money. We'll see.

Do you think that jobs and opportunity have nothing to do with politics?

Ohio is literally losing its educated young people to Illinois, New York, and California.

I think both parties have been horrible when it comes to housing policy, for what it is worth.

No it's not. Ohio has lost over 43,000 residents between 2020 and 2022.

Housing costs.