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Lol so we're using the arbitrary distinction of west of Central Parkway? The businesses in OTR and downtown are reaping huge benefits. Every restaurant in OTR had a multiple hour wait Saturday night. Plus, there are big plans for new business, east and west of Central Parkway. I'm sure that you'll come back here in a few years and admit that you are wrong though.

I think he's questioning the very idea that a liability clause can ever be legal in such a lease. Or at least be immune to a costly lawsuit. I have no idea if he's right.

They are tearing down buildings to create housing and businesses.

I also think there's no reason those Laurel lots have to remain SFH. They could be built upon with small-scale multifamily.

Or, hear me out, we just double the number of streetcars on the existing track and give it signal priority for significantly lower cost.

Brutus, we hardly ever agree on anything, but I'll give credit where it is due. You are spot on here.

That is absolutely not true. The Block Group that includes West 4th and the convention center has 6,400 people per square mile. Northside and Walnut Hills have multiple around 10,000. Mt. Adams is about 10,000. There are Block Groups in the West End with over 15,000 people per square mile. There's one in Clifton Heights with 32,000 people per square mile. Even Hyde Park Square has about 8,000 per square mile. There are tons of places more dense than the west side of downtown. Now you could make the argument that the daytime populations swells I guess. And there's certainly tons of opportunity for more density. If I had unlimited money I'd throw another line there, but we live in a world with financial constraints.

I do agree that expansion makes sense. I just don't think there is any world where this particular expansion should be prioritized. Take it up the hill, go to Camp Washington, Northside, or across the WHV. Go to Northern Kentucky or up Gilbert or to the West End. But running a parallel route two blocks from the existing route is way down the list of needs.

I know this is a month old but I just want to point out that it is a five minute walk from Elm Street to the streetcar stations on Walnut. It makes zero sense to do this expansion. That money would be way better spent by buying more streetcars and other improvements to increase frequency and speed on the current line.

Yes, they changed the routes. Which just proves they can do it again lol. And the streetcar already travels on 12th. It can just keep going straight at Elm then turn right on Central Parkway instead of right on Elm. Then the left onto Ezzard Charles is the only added turn and it's from one very wide street to another.

This might be the most ridiculous objection yet. Why couldn't a streetcar round the front drive? Streetcars make all the turns on the tight OTR streets just fine.

Lol really? This is the best you have? Bus routes are easy to change. Lighting and signage is easy to install. This is a very fixable problem. The #1 doesn't even go to CUT. Maybe you mean the 49? It's extremely easy to resume weekend service or to add additional routes. Yes it can. You can branch at 12th or Central Parkway very easily.

Union Terminal is the proposed location.

You didn't get pushback. People just (correctly) pointed out that this is a very easy problem to solve. For example, it is a 10 minute bus ride between Cincinnati Union Terminal and Fountain Square. All you need to do is increase the frequency of that route and time it with the train arrivals.

I would almost guarantee there'll be something there within 6 months. 3CDC is not going to want to keep that location empty.

Most urban areas have already been totally choked by highways so expansion of the existing ones are basically all that you can do. It would be pretty hard to fit another new highway in the spaghetti junctions surrounding the downtown areas of Cincinnati, Columbus, or Cleveland (or any of our smaller cities for that matter).

I don't actually think this last bit is true. The US Chamber of Commerce and many state and local Chambers of Commerce support increased legal immigration and streamlining of the process. It's one place where business is definitely at odds with the Republican party.

Bon Secours Mercy Health, headquartered in Cincinnati, is one of the largest employers in Richmond.

Sure, but you don't have to look very far in Philly to see that vision. South Philly, Fishtown, Brewerytown, etc. are all places where a blue collar person can afford a house and live in a vibrant, walkable neighborhood. The density makes that possible. Honestly, it is interesting you brought up Bryn Mawr because it is about 5,800 people per square mile, built around a train station with regular commuter service, as well as light rail service. It's more dense than Cincinnati, Columbus, or Cleveland. If every suburb were as dense as Bryn Mawr we'd be in a better place from an environmental and economic sustainability lens. Suburb does not automatically mean sprawl.

I find it hilarious that when government does something you personally don't like it is big government run amok. But when it does something that benefits you it is just "people's preferences as to how their tax dollars were spent."

Ok but there are Census Tracts in Philadelphia, NYC, Boston, DC, etc. that have 50k or 60k per square mile and they are wonderful. The Rittenhouse Square neighborhood of Philly is one of the most desirable in the country with 65k per square mile.

I am 100% sure that your grandparents did that. I am also 100% sure that their decision was HEAVILY subsidized by the government. I am also 100% sure that exclusionary zoning has forced a lot of people to live farther out than they would prefer. This isn't some radical statement.

This is so demonstrably false it's funny. Sprawl only exists because of government coercion. To do away with it all you have to do is let people build housing where they want in the quantities that the free market calls for.

The fact that Tom Brinkman is leading the opposition should tell you it's a great idea for the city to sell.

I think the whole NS is dangerous schtick makes little sense. Whether the city sells the railroad or keeps leasing it NS will still be the operator. Just like always.