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That is, unfortunately, the opposite of how things work. Density develops a little at a time, as land becomes more scarce and expensive. When you have a large surplus of land, it is cheap, and so development tends to be more low rise and spread out. As things get built, though, the land gets more scarce and expensive, and therefore higher densities are needed by the developers to make projects work. Also, the success of previous projects makes it more likely that developers can get financing and tenants to achieve more ambitious projects. Midtown is still early in this process- but it is making strides! University Circle is more of Cleveland's "second Downtown" than MidTown. There isn't a lot of space, and has more immediate opportunities to build up. Its already expanding out into other neighborhoods -"Circle North", into MidTown, etc. It also has One University Circle as its litmus test for taller buildings. The inner west side is also (I think) more likely to see taller buildings, at least apartment projects. MidTown is a very large space with a lot of vacancy that's attractive to campus style developments like Link 59, Pierres, Applied Industrial Technologies, etc. It's also attractive for townhomes and shorter mixed-use development with more floor space like the Innova project. Maybe one day it'll be littered with some taller buildings, but we'd need businesses and residents to fill that need. Side note, will MidTown ever become a "real" neighborhood versus a conglomerate of other neighborhoods?

That link is no longer active?

I misspoke. There aren't many attractive neighborhoods for millennial families who value experiences and amenities. It was more classicism than racism, which is is still bad - I admit and I apologize. I guess racism and classicism go hand-in-hand though. Unfortunately many of our neighborhoods are not desirable to many families. Why is this racist? Is it because the neighborhoods he listed are on the west side? I've worked with many young people who live in east side neighborhoods such as Hough. They have to deal with things everyday no child should have to encounter. Their families live there because of poverty not because it's a great place to live. Perhaps I misunderstood your response. Well UC, Little Italy, and MidTown are east side, but I digress. Wasn't trying to sir anything up.

There's not a ton of attractive optitons for families in the city proper besides OHC, Tremont, Edgewater, Detroit Shoreway area. University Circle/Little Italy and MidTown has potential and is becoming more attractive. The urban infill homes are relatively affordable, and there's a lot of family friendly things to do over there. There's a few decent schools over there as well. There's always Old Brooklyn, Kamm's, and Shaker Square too. I don't know a ton about those except that Shaker Square can send kids to Shaker Schools, but isn't that mainly apartments? I think that the inner west side and University Circle area are the most attractive for younger people, and for families which will make them really expensive unfortunately. There needs to be more homes being built under 250K. There's not many around in Ohio City.

^ The music settlement is a great asset. I was looking at their layout and on their website. It seems like a fairly large space. I also see that there's a playground? I wonder if that's just for the music settlement or anyone who lives in the building? The area is becoming more attractive to families. With the newly constructed Waverly Elementary and Middle School, upcoming new West Side High School, St Igs, Irishtown Bend and Edgewater the area could really attract millennial families and maybe families who don't live in the city. This is an important demographic that our city needs to appeal to. You always hear people say that they can't raise kids in Cleveland.

I haven't taken pictures. But I live about 1,000 feet away - they're not done, but there are now people living in some of the units. Which baffles me. Seems somewhat common. OUC had a multiphase lease as she me apartments became available sooner. The Halle build My will as well. It was just funny, I was walking by the other day, and a man and woman were lounging on their porch reading whilst construction crews carried on two floors beneath them That is pretty funny. Probably a little noisy.

I haven't taken pictures. But I live about 1,000 feet away - they're not done, but there are now people living in some of the units. Which baffles me. Seems somewhat common. OUC had a multiphase lease as she me apartments became available sooner. The Halle build My will as well.

This would be great, but Cleveland would probably cheap it out like they did with Public Square. It would end up in a state of non-completion like Public Square.

The Beacon also seems relatively "inexpensive" as well. 60 mil doesn't seem too much of a stretch. However, a lot of our parking decks are fairly unsightly unlike 515.

I live here (629 Euclid - Lofts [/member] Rosetta). I'm not sure, but its been like that. It lines up with where the laundry rooms are, maybe for that? Maybe for the AC units that were installed? I'm not sure, but it is quite unsightly, especially for such a beautiful building. This building has a lot of uses. The front is a hotel. The back is MRN's corporate HQ (Floor 2), apartments (3-9), and offices (10-15), plus Sapient Razorfish's HQ that was built onto the top of the building. They really need to get moving. There's so many unused parking lots around there. I'm hoping that if One University Circle, The Beacon, Lumen, Flats East Bank Phase 3, etc. are successful we can see these lots finally be filled up.

If it saves them money, then why not?

I know that Irishtown Bend will have some sort of playground and other features. However, I'm not sure how long that will take. There's space in the Flats and downtown for a couple parks with playgrounds. I think that it's too close to Constantinos, and won't there be a little grocery store in Quarter? Also Dave's, Heinens, and the West Side Market are all pretty close. There's also a Constantinos cafe in EY. FEB is kind of isolated. Maybe with the new apartment complex it could support a little store because I'm not sure who else it would serve?

So much of the festival involves really long lines and masses of people. Tower City is unique because it has ample space for that sort of thing. To support CIFF and its record attendance numbers you need the space to be pretty damn big. Because waiting outside in March is not good. I'm not really sure much that cinema is going to hang around. I went to see Jurassic Park on opening night and there was barely anyone there. Whereas other cinemas in the area were sold out. Its not too busy and I'm not sure how its even hanging on unless the film fest is keeping it up. However, its a pretty low quality cinema. Its so outdated compared to its competitors. I think that Cleveland really needs more family friendly attractions, although I'm not sure if FEB is a good place for that? There's not a lot of child care or any play areas. I've heard firsthand from many young parents who want to remain downtown or close bye, but there's not many great spots for their kids to play. One of my neighbors who is in their early 30s (I live downtown) is moving to Lakewood because there's not much for their kids to do. Similarly, one of my friends if moving from FEB to a rental house in OHC bc of their kid is getting older. He and his wife love where they live, but there's not much to keep them around. And even in OHC where they're moving to there's not much except their small yard.

Kenect is proposed to be built on the big parking lot. Shown as Building #2 in my diagram posted earlier. Haha, I just realized that the photo was really large and I had to scroll over. I got it now. That's really exciting.

Building #2 site, below.... Wait, I'm a little confused. Is the Kennect Cleveland going on the waterfront or the big parking lot or? I thought that those little buildings were going along the water front.

I always thought that a really cool little modern building there roughly the same height as neighboring buildings would be cool. I like the juxtaposition of modern glass buildings between/by older, more historic building. Although, I'm not sure how Cleveland's promenade mandate affects new buildings/ownership along the riverfront?! Coincidentally, some friends of mine and I walked past that last week and thought that would be a great spot for an Austin-style outdoor bar, with one or two food trucks / bar carts, Adirondack chairs, some outdoor games, and maybe a fire pit or something. This could be cool, but limited to weather? I also just think that the street has a "missing tooth" look with that lot there.

W. 25th is one of the most popular streets in the city. Its an ideal location to be an entertainment district [not necessarily a club district] with dense residential options. Densifying the street and surrounding streets makes sense with its proximity to Downtown, other job centers, transit options, the lake, etc. I'm not sure why residents of an inner city neighborhood of a city that's beginning to see development are shocked to see bars, restaurants, etc. NIMBYs are fighting an uphill battle. If they want a nice quiet neighborhood, move to a suburb. The same people who don't bars are the same people who don't want the Casto development on Franklin Circle, Clinton west, or other dense projects in the neighborhood. ::)

I'm sure that the owner is very aware of potential development on their land as the neighborhood is starting to see a lot of new construction of apartment complexes/mixed use developments. The new park across the street will raise the property values as well. It'll be interesting to see what CC Lutheran does with their lots. With MetroHealth's new campus down the road, and CC's spur of development elsewhere, there's no reason they can't afford to transition to denser parking to free up space for development. I agree. W. 25th could use a little night life. I like Speakeasy, but what else is there on W. 25? W. 25, to me, is a more casual night or a pre-game spot.

It may be ugly on the outside, but you should go inside. It is a visual cultural experience. How do we preserve important cultural assets while developing - i.e., not "gentrify". Maintaining strong, existing businesses important, but it sits on an extremely important piece of land that has strong development potential. Do we integrate their business into a new structure, and would they be willing to do so or potentially pay high rents? Keep their building and develop around it? Will the owners sell out when the time comes and impact would that have? Questions that I ask as a very fresh urban planner.

^ The road is like 70 feet wide. You could take space from the road to construct buildings. Could also create dedicated bus lanes, especially now that the 51 is branded. Both very radical ideas likely to not happen. But some smaller buildings along the eastern half would be great that could be integrated with the park.

I think that strong dedicated, central green space is always beneficial for a city. There are plenty of lots on the western side of W. 25th that can be developed. Some of the eastern half could be developed, but it doesn't need to all be developed. The lot where Kan Zaman sits amongst, and across Franklin from it can really be developed for high quality mixed-use development. The block where the restaurant sits is roughly 6.5 acres, and has basically nothing except for low quality buildings. There's really no reason Lutheran can't develop a parking garage somewhere. A good road diet, development of the lots, and strong public space would be great for this area. W. 25th thrives where its 2 lanes, as does Detroit Ave. There was a recent article in Scene that suggested to maintain the stabilizing of our population could depend on retaining the millennials we've gained as they begin families. We have green space, but how much of it is family friendly? Irishtown Bend will have a sledding hill, playground, etc. https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/clevelands-population-could-hinge-on-keeping-or-attracting-young-people-once-they-start-having-kids/Content?oid=19742686

I live right next to the Beacon and I've never noticed that its illuminated at night. :-\

^thanks!

The investor who purchased the land has some interesting ideas for Flat South - not sure if this had been posted. http://www.jscheer.net/south-bank-flats/ Also: http://www.jscheer.net/2338canal/ http://www.jscheer.net/settlerspoint/

I guess that's better than a flat surface lot.