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that wedge at superior and Prospect is a hideous hole in the ground that needs to be filled in with something

But ....

i'm sure during the bitter cold winter months the tunnel system of Minneapolis, or the vast underground city of Montreal for that matter, is a godsend. It has its place in certain locales.

That would be a catastrophic situation like the one in San Francisco; https://www.businessinsider.com/is-millennium-tower-safe-still-leaning-sinking-2017-9

Any word on the height of this thing?

Interesting article that's worth sharing. I'm really excited about this project and what it will do to the surrounding communities! https://www.cleveland.com/arts/2019/06/burning-river-legacy-towpath-trail-spurs-rediscovery-of-cuyahoga-valley-erasing-east-west-divide.html

Especially from a "dirt lot" perspective!

The former Eaton building has those warped reflective dimples for comparison.

I wonder if CF was attracted to Cleveland's oldest property because they are the first (oldest) community foundation in the world (according to wiki)... I kind of historical kinship if you will. I can think of no other rational when there are so many undeveloped alternative sites (that are just as unruly if not more btw) in the area. To single out this plot for that reason seems nonsensical to me. If this was the last remaining underutilized plot i would understand much more.

I don't know where the boundaries of midtown begin and end but i think its paramount for the community to protect its defining features (Agora Theatre Masonic Temple, Galucci's, Dunham Tavern) as much as possible so that it can develop its own budding identity. They shouldn't be encroached upon.

I don't see why CF can't purchase and build on one of the many vacant lots nearby. Surely midtown can accommodate both. I don't think its an eye sore at all. but rather an interesting historical site. To have some modern building juxtaposed next to it wouldn't look right.

No I haven't. I travel mostly via google Earth these days that suits me just fine. La Defense is actually a business district outside the city limits of Paris proper. Nice try! Often times with historic cities the business or financial district is decoupled from its city center. Arlington has taller buildings than DC due to its height restrictions. I'm veering way off topic but I had to respond. My apologies.

There are some exceptions like Washington D.C. (minus the Washington Monument) or Paris ( minus the Eiffel Tower) where tall buildings are entirely inappropriate. What counts most is what its does on a street level. I think University Circle should also avoid tall buildings, mid-rise is okay. But downtown Cleveland I'm all for it. On

Very nice shot! Can you get one at night?

Boston's Back Bay is another good example where townhouses work well in a downtown area. I think over by Gray's Armory near Bolivar on both sides of the old cemetery next to Progressive field would be ideal for these kind of homes imo.

Can't say I like how the UC3 massing overwhelms the the profile of the iconic United Methodist Church. Its perhaps the most signature building of University Circle. I think its important to preserve the park-like atmosphere of the neighborhood with its sunny lush greenery as opposed to the dark shadows of downtown with its tall buildings. The two should maintain their separate identities.

Looks kind of narrow and cramped. There will be a lot more people than this photo indicates.

I hope so too but its not a high priority imo. After Euclid gets built up Prospect should be next. Huron is important because it connects the Theater District with the Gateway District. And of course 9th street because its had direct access to the lakefront and its museums. E.12th is a relatively "sterile" thoroughfare north of Perk Plaza that is more suitable for office buildings. Its very boring street with very little foot traffic. Pedestrians want to feel safe a night. The busiest intersection in Cleveland is not Euclid and 9th but rather 9th and Prospect. A traffic cop is needed during rush hour and ball games. That's the place that should be built up next.

It wont dwarf the surrounding buildings. You have the Keith at 272' and Rhodes Tower at 363' nearby.

Would love to city the Cultural Gardens of Rockefeller Park one day be lined up with high end luxury apartment/ condos on both sides linking Bratenahl with University Circle. Its has the potential to be our "Central Park"

Its also a very walkable city. How many downtown areas have have three professional sporting venues within walking distance of each other? It also has Playhouse Square to boot.

I would reserve judgement until after the exterior is complete. Either way we're stuck with it. I just know its better than what was there before.

I'm guessing to help protect the panels from being damaged by the construction workers working above it ... dropped tools and what not.

Also the Crile building of the clinic is another Pelli: https://www.bluffton.edu/homepages/facstaff/sullivanm/ohio/cleveland/crile/pelli.html

Curious to know which of the two towers in Cincinnati represents Proctor and which one represent Gamble. Not that it matters , but I'm sure that was the intent. Philadelphia has two twin towers that seems to connote the idea of the city of "brotherly love" in a subliminal way. I love thoughtful designs like that. Can't say that i like their skyline with their latest two towers.. . but their stuck with it. i don't like whats happening around the Empire State building either with competing buildings that are taller. Its prominence and stature is diminishing by the day. Terminal Tower fortunately has Public Square along with the building two wings which gives the tower plenty of breathing room for future generations to enjoy, not to mention the unobstructed view from the west bank of the river.